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post #31 of 38 Old 03-21-2019, 11:24 AM
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I just order an Ida Red from Boyer Nursery in PA. yesterday. Boyer Nurseries and Orchards, Inc. I did order the largest they had @$30 because, well, at my age I want it producing asap.They do have smaller/younger trees for less money. Not many nurseries handle the Ida Red, let alone have it in stock.

I ordered the semi dwarf, because of location, and again, at my age don't want to be climbing too high. And, I found out taking a tour of a local commercial orchard. it seems most orchards are going with the semi dwarf, planting them closer. Testing in orchards in New York State shows you can get more off of several semi dwarf trees, then you can a standard tree that would take up the same space.
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Hey DJ, I believe that the Idared is not self-fertile, so it needs another apple tree to cross pollinate with. Don't know if you already have other apple trees growing there. There are lists https://www.orangepippintrees.com/po...er.aspx?v=1092 of what type of apple trees will work, including white flowering crab apple, which grows abundantly wild around here.
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Hey DJ, I believe that the Idared is not self-fertile, so it needs another apple tree to cross pollinate with. Don't know if you already have other apple trees growing there. There are lists https://www.orangepippintrees.com/po...er.aspx?v=1092 of what type of apple trees will work, including white flowering crab apple, which grows abundantly wild around here.
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I already have a Yellow Transparent started near by. The Ida Red is replacing a Jonathan that arrived DOA from a discount tree source, that would not reply, when I tried to contact them. Live and learn, cheapest isn't always best, which is the rule I normally go by. Boyer's aren't the lowest on prices, nor are they the highest. My kind of place. Got email confirmation that it is being shipped 4/3. At least I know to be looking out for it.
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Live and learn, cheapest isn't always best, which is the rule I normally go by. Boyer's aren't the lowest on prices, nor are they the highest. My kind of place.
Isn't that the truth. I think we've all been bitten by the "I'll take a chance" bug. At least I know I have, but then again I've also gotten pleasantly surprised by some and appreciated the savings. So I guess it's just like life - "a crap shoot!"
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People don't like my advice sometimes because they just do not understand. I CAUTION again, when you are PLANNING an orchard. YOU HAVE TO KNOW WHAT ROOTSTOCK THE variety is being grafted on. Rootstock is everything in growth and ultimate size of trees. You can't plan if you don't know the rootstock. I've been there and done that. You think things are swell and 5 years later when the trees should be bearing they have grown into each other because you didn't know how big they would get.

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Yeah, well back when I planted my cherry trees some 35 yrs ago I was told they'd get 15-20 ft tall. Didn't know they meant in the first couple yrs. So last time we were racing the crows to get some of the cherries I had to take a 24 ft extension ladder down the hill to pick some. Decided two things. 1) Moving that ladder around a tree on rocky, uneven ground is ridiculous, hard, and dangerous. And 2) that this was the last time we would be getting any cherries from our three trees. It just wasn't worth the effort. So did a little chain saw pruning, cutting off fruit laden-ed branches and we picked from ground level. Had lots of cherry sauce, pies, coffee cakes to pack in the freezer. And today I can look out the window and those trees are a good 40 ft tall. They still bear a bit of fruit but the smaller birds get them. Not enough for the crows to bother with. But I will say it was fun for a couple yrs launching bottle rockets out of a 3/4" length of copper pipe and they would burst right over the trees. But as they say all good things come to an end. The crows eventually got use to them, and just jumped to the other tree and I soon got bored. Now we just go to the local orchards or hobby farms. There are easily 25 to choose from within 25 miles from our house.
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I just order an Ida Red from Boyer Nursery in PA. yesterday. Boyer Nurseries and Orchards, Inc. I did order the largest they had @$30 because, well, at my age I want it producing asap.They do have smaller/younger trees for less money. Not many nurseries handle the Ida Red, let alone have it in stock.

I ordered the semi dwarf, because of location, and again, at my age don't want to be climbing too high. And, I found out taking a tour of a local commercial orchard. it seems most orchards are going with the semi dwarf, planting them closer. Testing in orchards in New York State shows you can get more off of several semi dwarf trees, then you can a standard tree that would take up the same space.
Just thought I'd give an update on the tree I ordered from Boyer Nursery.

It arrived Friday mid-morning, via FedEx. I had other items on the agenda, and got it set later Friday. I was pleasantly surprised when I opened the box. A very nice looking tree, and true to the advertisement, approx. 7/8" to 1" lower trunk. Properly pruned, and ready to set.

The only problem I have with the whole deal, is in the fine print, it says shipping will be calculated upon shipment. In my mind, thinking it's only 350 miles away, it may be at most, 2/3 the cost of the tree itself. Later that evening when checking my email, I see I received an invoice on the transaction. I was somewhat shocked to see the shipping was $39.95 alone, $10 more than the tree. With the size of the box, 8" triangle X 6', and weight less than 5 lb., yeah, I was shocked. Live and learn.
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Just thought I'd give an update on the tree I ordered from Boyer Nursery.

It arrived Friday mid-morning, via FedEx. I had other items on the agenda, and got it set later Friday. I was pleasantly surprised when I opened the box. A very nice looking tree, and true to the advertisement, approx. 7/8" to 1" lower trunk. Properly pruned, and ready to set.

The only problem I have with the whole deal, is in the fine print... I was somewhat shocked to see the shipping was $39.95 alone, $10 more than the tree. With the size of the box, 8" triangle X 6', and weight less than 5 lb., yeah, I was shocked. Live and learn.
Ouch! Beyond that, I hope you get many years of fine apples from it.

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