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post #1 of 336 Old 08-03-2017, 09:50 PM Thread Starter
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Found a loader, maybe

I've been looking around for loaders again & not finding much within reasonable driving distance. Yesterday I came across this one which is only 10 minutes from my house. It comes with the tractor, which really doesn't have a value considering it's state of disassembly. (it's a Jacobsen GT14)

The loader is complete, according to the seller, and I will hopefully be able to see it this weekend. (The tractor is also supposedly complete but hard to tell)

How much cash should I take with me if I want to make an offer on it?

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post #2 of 336 Old 08-03-2017, 10:33 PM
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Man oh man, somebody must have given this guy a set of wrenches for Christmas.

That is a Johnson Workhorse 10TC, TC being twin cylinder as opposed to the earlier unicorn style centered single cylinder.

After working mine day in and day out since 2013 and it never complaining, and the tractor never complaining, I can tell you they are an excellent addition to any GT.

Besides being a well made product, I believe the key to their success and longevity is the "S" shape undercarriage extensions that attach directly to the rear axle housing.

It is not attached to the frame rails like so many others we see. There are 4 bolts attaching the loader to the forward portion of the tractor frame but they only support weight, not forward motion which is supplied directly from the rear axle.

I am so pleased with mine, I even made the 54" snow pusher (you see in the pic to the left) to replace the 38" bucket in the winter.

Were it here in Ontario, I would go with a thousand bucks in my pocket but of course bargain lower if you can. Remember too you are also saving probably a hundred in gas by not going for one a few hours away.

Bear in mind, cylinder condition and the pump are the most important considerations. Hoses are comparatively cheap and easy to replace.

Best of luck..... go for it.

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I agree, that's a 10tc. It doesn't look wide enough to be a 12a. Besides that they are very difficult to differentiate between.

I'd love to find a 12 or 12a for my 140.

Value is difficult. I've seen them in very nice shape on a good working tractor sell for $900, I'm still kicking myself for letting that get away, and I've seen just the loader go for over $1000 and up to about $1500.

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I paid $400 for my "Unicorn" model about three years ago. They are tough little loaders and to me, it would be worth $1,000. Maybe more if all of the undercarriage did not need to be heavily modified and the pump and hoses were in good shape. To repair or replace the hoses and pump would put you over $300 quickly so factor that in. Good luck!
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Well, the seller is asking $900 and I am hoping to get him down to around $700 but we will see. He won't sell the loader separate from the tractor, that way he gets the buyer to take all the junk with him. Hopefully it won't take too much to get it dragged up onto a trailer.

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In my neighborhood, if the hydraulics are all there and in decent shape it would be worth $1000 all day. Get him to throw in that old Bishmann tire machine to sweeten the deal if your hauling away all his junk.

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There is a tractor in the picture? ....

I think 700 would be fair if it's all there including the pump.

The true test of skill is when you can put something back together and it works... not the dusty half disassembled pile of junk in the corner....

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Well, the seller is asking $900 and I am hoping to get him down to around $700 but we will see. He won't sell the loader separate from the tractor, that way he gets the buyer to take all the junk with him. Hopefully it won't take too much to get it dragged up onto a trailer.
If the cylinders are not badly pitted, anything under his $900 would be a good deal and you could sell off at least some of the old Jake parts to recover a few bucks.

In his mind, he is no doubt thinking about what he paid, before he self destructed the whole thing.

The flip side is, without guys like him, guys like us would not find good deals on GT loaders.

Loading it could be fun, hopefully you can put 4 wheels back under it.

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Anxious to hear

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Re: Found a loader, maybe

Apparently, from what he had in the posting, the tractor was taken apart to repair a steering problem. I'm not sure in what universe you would need to remove the rear wheels to repair the steering, or the seat, or the fenders, or the......

Unfortunately he doesn't have time to show me until Sunday morning at the earliest so we will have to wait to see what happens.


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its worth all the cost of a bad back an then some

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Depending on what you plan on putting it on and what bracketry is involved, you might want to fix up the Jake........if all the parts for it are there too

I would love to find some thing like that for $700.....even $900

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If its a steering problem, I can almost guarantee its the cross shaft on the steering box that broke.....I got a couple of deals on Ford LGTs because of this. I have welded a couple, not a hard fix

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Depending on what you plan on putting it on and what bracketry is involved, you might want to fix up the Jake........if all the parts for it are there too



I would love to find some thing like that for $700.....even $900


I'm not opposed to keeping it on the Jacobsen, provided there are enough parts are there to make it worthwhile, but I wouldn't want to stick a bunch of money into it to get it goi g agaib


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I'm not opposed to keeping it on the Jacobsen, provided there are enough parts are there to make it worthwhile, but I wouldn't want to stick a bunch of money into it to get it goi g agaib


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That Jacobsen is identical to my tube frame Ford LGT which is in fact made by Jacobsen.

With the Kohler K engine, shaft drive, Eaton 11 hydro and Peerless 2500 trans, it is as solid a base for that loader as you will find. In fact that loader is made specifically for it with no modifications necessary. It is well worth spending a few bucks on rather than chopping up the loader and trying to adapt it to another model.

The steering is just a common Ross steering box that is easily fixed or replaced.

This may well be your lucky day.

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