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Husqvarna LGTH22V48 for Snowblowing?

Hi all,
Hoping to get some advice prior to purchasing a Husqvarna LGTH22V48 with a Berco electric lift, 2 stage blower. It is about a 2015 model. 165 hours. $3,900 Canadian.

I have a long (about 200í) gravel (barely any gravel left) driveway with a gradual slope(not sure how to describe the angle).

Many years ago I had an IH that would get stuck in the snow on the slightest grade. Anyone have thoughts on how this Husqvarna would handle my situation?

I currently have a craftsman DYS 4500 without a blower attachment. Problem is, in Canada, Sears has gone out of business, so getting the attachment can be tough. Even if I could, I would be worried that with the small tires, traction would be tough.

Thanks for any input
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Re: Husqvarna LGTH22V48 for Snowblowing?

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Hi all,
Hoping to get some advice prior to purchasing a Husqvarna LGTH22V48 with a Berco electric lift, 2 stage blower. It is about a 2015 model. 165 hours. $3,900 Canadian.

I have a long (about 200í) gravel (barely any gravel left) driveway with a gradual slope(not sure how to describe the angle).

Many years ago I had an IH that would get stuck in the snow on the slightest grade. Anyone have thoughts on how this Husqvarna would handle my situation?

I currently have a craftsman DYS 4500 without a blower attachment. Problem is, in Canada, Sears has gone out of business, so getting the attachment can be tough. Even if I could, I would be worried that with the small tires, traction would be tough.

Thanks for any input
The Craftsman DYS4500 models,

1) 917276900
2) 917276901
3) 917276902
4) 917276903
5) 917276904
6) 917276905

All have the 12ga pan style chassis, same as on the Husqvarna GT/TS that have problems with attachments on the front. This chassis at some point will fail in the front just behind the support brackets for the attachment. The part number listed on Sears Parts is # 582033101, there are many changes in that part number over the years since 2006 till present, but it's the same chassis (Husqvarna, AYP, Electrolux).

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If you have the Craftsman DYS4500 model, 917276906, you have a "C" channel chassis. The part number on Sears Parts is # 415063. This is the much stronger chassis for an attachment such as a snowblower, it has many numbers also but is the welded chassis from Husqvarna (AYP). If this is your chassis I would have no hesitation to install a snow blower, except for this,

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Does it have a K46 Transaxle? This would not be strong enough, (rated for light duty).

Does it have a manual Transaxle? This would be strong enough.

Small wheels would not bother me, but being able to put chains on would be a must.

The Husqvarna model you are considering has the same chassis as the Craftsman DYS4500 # 917276906 ("C" channel), just a few things to consider.

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Re: Husqvarna LGTH22V48 for Snowblowing?

Thanks FLHusqGT for all those details.
Iím not at home for a couple of days. Iíll check out the model and transaxle when I get back.
If things are good, maybe Iíll do a hunt for a blower attachment instead of a new tractor. (Although like I said, since Sears is out of business here (how they could mess up such an established company is beyond me!) finding attachments can be hit/miss)
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Re: Husqvarna LGTH22V48 for Snowblowing?

I really doubt that can handle a blower. I think the LG's have the tuff torq K46. I had to upgrade to the TS series to get the stronger trans, but here is the real issue;

You really need a posi trans for a snow blower along with weights and ice chains. It would be even better if you replace the tires with fish bone tread tires.

Here is the issue: the blower adds a lot of weight to the front end. It tends to lift the rear, so you lose traction when the blower is off the ground. You will struggle even on a slight incline. When the blower is on the ground, the blower adds a lot of front resistance, so the back wheels tend to spin, unless you have weights AND chains. If it's the K46 or other light weight transmission, then you'll shorten the life of trans, especially if you get a lot of snow.

I found the combination of posi traction, weights, ice chains (ice chains have metal studs), and fish bone tires effective. Keep in mind most of the husqvrana/sears since 2005 are light weight frames, so i'm extra careful not to hit things or drive so fast that the blower bounces. I too have stone driveways - about 6000 sqft.

I have two units, a 2005GT unit made from combining a 2005 GTH5000 and a sears 5000 for my JBjr bucket/plow rig, and a TS348 with the blower rig. I was told the TS348 was a heavier frame, which it isn't compared to the older tractors. Had i found this out before I bought the TS348, I would have gone a different route.


You'll read a lot here that Husq is known for telling you that you can have lots of attachments, but then when you damage the frame, they won't honor the warranty.

BTW, if the trans is the size of the old 3lb coffee cans, then forget it.
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Here is the issue: the blower adds a lot of weight to the front end. It tends to lift the rear, so you lose traction when the blower is off the ground. You will struggle even on a slight incline. When the blower is on the ground, the blower adds a lot of front resistance, so the back wheels tend to spin, unless you have weights AND chains. If it's the K46 or other light weight transmission, then you'll shorten the life of trans, especially if you get a lot of snow.

I found the combination of posi traction, weights, ice chains (ice chains have metal studs), and fish bone tires effective. Keep in mind most of the husqvrana/sears since 2005 are light weight frames, so i'm extra careful not to hit things or drive so fast that the blower bounces. I too have stone driveways - about 6000 sqft.
Much of what you mentioned is true, but, while I have serious reservations about the durability of the entry level hydros when it come to slopes while mowing grass, those reservations do not enter the picture when snow is involved. The usual complaint about K46 durability comes from overheating the hydro by climbing slopes in the summer when the air temperature is quite high in relation to winter conditions, and when hydro pressures are high from the extra workload caused by the slope.

A K46 equipped tractor will tow a 5000 lb truck on a level gravel driveway in the summer with no added ballast. In the winter on a snow covered driveway with a maximum load of ballast and ice chained tires, it is more likely to spin the tires without moving the truck. That does not indicate an extra workload on the hydro. What it does show is how little traction is available when snow is involved. If the tires are spinning, hydro pressures, and heat generation, are reduced.

Over a 30 year period, I used 2 GTs for snow removal, a MF12H equipped with a snow thrower or a FEL, complete with loaded tires, wheel weights, regular 2-link tire chains, and counterweight on the rear of the tractor (total ballast weight - 400 lb), and a MF1655 also equipped with a snow blower or FEL, loaded tires, wheel weights, 2-link chained tires, and counterweight on the rear of the tractor (total ballast weight - 650 lb).

Neither had positrac or diff lock, neither got stuck so bad that it couldn't be worked out with its own power, and the big one rarely spun a wheel. On the other hand, my heavier 4wd SCUT, with diff lock, has been stuck so bad in snow that it took a large truck to haul it out.

If done right, up to 400 lb of ballast can be added to a LT with a K46 for improved traction, and still be within the manufacturers weight restrictions. But an LT has a very limited base weigh as a starting point, and it will still spin the tires on snow when pushed hard enough.

The points on ice chains will wear off eventually. On my GT, that would be in the first year. The chains on that tractor were replaced every 8 years when the cross chains were worn so thin that they were starting to fail.

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Wow, lots of information. You guys really know your stuff. Very much appreciate your information and the time spent providing it.

So, of course Canada has different model and part numbers than the US. (Maybe that is one of the straws that broke them and helped them go out of business, replicating something that was already established). My tractorís part number is 944.606042. I looked up the main body of this and compared it to the pic that FLHusqGT posted. They donít look the same, so Iím thinking I have the cheaper one.
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As far as the trans, Iím not able to figure out which version I have.

I figured out that my slope of the driveway is about 10 degrees.

I was looking at a JD X320 but that was sold pretty quick.

Iím now looking at a Cub Cadet XT1 with a 3 stage blower. Looks to have pretty good reviews, however, it is difficult to tell if the reviews are just based on cutting, rather than an year or two of blowing.

I wish this was as easy as 2+2. Trying to balance $$$ and functionality/reliability is always the tough part. Maybe cheaper to have someone plow it....but where is the fun in that!
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Consult with a local snow plowing/removal outfit for a per season rate. Here, the last quote that I heard about was 12 years ago for an 80'x12' driveway. It was about $600 for the season. Figure that you can get 10 seasons out of your equipment without seeing too much by way of major repair expenses and another 5 - 10 year with escalating maintenance expenses.

The less money that you put into purchasing a machine, the sooner the escalating expenses are going to appear. Keep in mind that LTs and their light weight do not have the greatest traction even when well ballasted, and the hydros in them have an aversion to slopes in excess of 7į if a long service life is desired. Sustained high hydro pressures result in lower service life, and slopes mean high pressure when going down as well as when going up.

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[QUOTE=Newoldhouseguy;12371595]Wow, lots of information. You guys really know your stuff. Very much appreciate your information and the time spent providing it.

So, of course Canada has different model and part numbers than the US. (Maybe that is one of the straws that broke them and helped them go out of business, replicating something that was already established). My tractorís part number is 944.606042. I looked up the main body of this and compared it to the pic that FLHusqGT posted. They donít look the same, so Iím thinking I have the cheaper one.
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I just wanted to confirm with you, the chassis in the diagram is the TS/GT chassis, not the one to have for front attachments. I'm only confirming chassis #180 not the drawbar that bolts to it in the rear.
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Thanks FLHusqGT for all those details.
Iím not at home for a couple of days. Iíll check out the model and transaxle when I get back.
If things are good, maybe Iíll do a hunt for a blower attachment instead of a new tractor. (Although like I said, since Sears is out of business here (how they could mess up such an established company is beyond me!) finding attachments can be hit/miss)
It is a shame that a retail pillar such as Sears is gone. The one in our town is being scaled down and may end up closing.

I wanted to pass on some info (sergeant, credit goes to him) that in Canada, only Canada, Husqvarna still sells a Garden Tractor with the "C" Channel chassis, and Tuff Torq K66 with limited slip, not locking diff. This might meet your budget concerns, and I wouldn't have any reservations as to it being strong enough to handle the front attachments you want to use.

It would meet the three big items for a GT (Light).

1) Power (20hp or greater, old GT's were fine on 8hp, different standards)

2) Chassis (Fabricated-Welded with plenty of support, tube, or more common in lower budgets-"C" Channel- naturally stronger than pressed steel pan)

3) Transaxle (Ground Engagement Capable, usually 1" or 25mm axles or larger in diameter)

That list is not exhaustive, just the top categories that effect what you want your tractor to reliably do.

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The PDF is the parts manual with diagrams.

Hope this helps your search.

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