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Here’s what my little patch of clover planted between our pavers looks like after a mow. Not sure how we got it so thick other than I just ignored it for the first 2 months

I use various types of moss between pavers... Other than a little water from time to time and an occasional weed to pull (rarely) they are zero maintenance and look nice.

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I have white clover (and dandelions) throughout my 2.25 acre lawn. In the front I mow every week, but in the back when the clover is in bloom I let it alone for two weeks at a time just for the honey and bumble bees. We have plenty of bees out where I live.

My backyard is a little over 1/2 acre and started out as a sloped, rock infested, clay mud slope. In 2010 (year we built our house) I carefully groomed it with a landscape rake after the excavator got done in the back. This got most of the rocks out of the soil and filled in the many ruts and drainage rills. Next I brought in a few tons of some organic material (compost, old leaves and such) and had my neighbor with a large tractor mounted 3 pt tiller till that in. Again I leveled it with the landscape rake, borrowed a seed spreader from same neighbor and used my Kubota BX2230 to spread a LOT of fescue grass seed. I covered the seed with many bales of hand spread straw, rolled that down with a roller, then after all that hard work, eagerly waited for the ground to spring to life... It never happened... We had a minor drought that year, interrupted by very brief, very heavy downpours that simply washed away the straw and seed. Then it would bake again. All I managed to get by fall was a back yard full of ruts and rills, with mostly weeds interrupted by a few blades of grass. I made another attempt the next spring. Everything was going great until June... That was the year we had 106 degree temperatures in JUNE, in KY! It simply baked the ground to brick. Later that summer/fall I was only able to re-do half of it due to traveling for work, but that half came up and looked good!

The next spring, due to work, I decided to let nature have the other half just to see how long it would take for it to fill in. What I have ended up with on that half is mostly white clover! I did not sow it. I guess it just blew in? It was interesting to watch the yard fill in year by year. Weeds, crab grass, and other normally bad things came first. By the second year, clumps of fescue and patches of white clover were showing. (I am surrounded by cattle grazing fields on all sides. ) By the 4th year the clover was starting to crowd out the weeds and the clumps of fescue were continuing to spread. Today, 9 years later, I still have a few small bare spots where nothing is growing but the clover is filling those in quickly. I like to get on Google earth and look at past images of my property. It is interesting to see the progression from bare dirt to green. So if you want clover, don't do anything, just let nature bring it in for you!

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I have a lot of clover around and I try to let it bloom for a while. But I have an area I need to do something with. It's primarily red rock gravel with a variety of green stuff mixed in that grows unevenly.

I tilled and raked some of it this spring, but didn't accomplish much. Once the heat breaks this Fall, I'll go at it again, starting with a middle buster to get deeper than the tiller did. I'm moving grass clippings into that area and will try to get some of my Oak leaves there once they drop. Neighbor will bring me some rotted manure/hay and I can get more from another neighbor.

By next Spring, hopefully it will be better.

Was thinking of trying to find some clover seed, but I may check with our extension office to see what they say.

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As I've said before, it really all depends on where one lives in the country as far as groundcovers go.
I'mnofarmer looks like he had great success with just allowing his property develop naturally. Looking back at older Google Maps pictures of where I live now, one can see that the land was completely cleared somewhere in 2008. When I bought the place in 2015, it had completely grown over and took over a year to clear once again.
The first pic is when I moved in and the second is after the third to last (of 7) burn piles. I found all kinds of stuff hidden from the normal old tyres to logs two feet in diameter and 20 feet long.
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I have white clover (and dandelions) throughout my 2.25 acre lawn. In the front I mow every week, but in the back when the clover is in bloom I let it alone for two weeks at a time just for the honey and bumble bees. We have plenty of bees out where I live.

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The next spring, due to work, I decided to let nature have the other half just to see how long it would take for it to fill in. What I have ended up with on that half is mostly white clover! I did not sow it. I guess it just blew in? It was interesting to watch the yard fill in year by year. Weeds, crab grass, and other normally bad things came first. By the second year, clumps of fescue and patches of white clover were showing. (I am surrounded by cattle grazing fields on all sides. ) By the 4th year the clover was starting to crowd out the weeds and the clumps of fescue were continuing to spread. Today, 9 years later, I still have a few small bare spots where nothing is growing but the clover is filling those in quickly. I like to get on Google earth and look at past images of my property. It is interesting to see the progression from bare dirt to green. So if you want clover, don't do anything, just let nature bring it in for you!
I have repeated the second paragraph about 3 times in my life thus far. Done with it.

Let the clover run, baby!
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Yep! Nature is far better at yard work than I am!

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Everything was going great until June... That was the year we had 106 degree temperatures in JUNE, in KY! It simply baked the ground to brick.
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Continued into August, maybe later.

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I have a war on clover at my place, but only because I'm allergic to honeybees. I try not to have anything around the house that would attract a bee.

But, when we tried to establish clover in our pastures we'd always frost seed it. That meant broadcasting it in the late winter. The freeze / thaw cycles in late winter and spring would give it good seed to soil contact. It worked well. That's probably what I'd do, if I wanted clover in my lawn.
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I use various types of moss between pavers... Other than a little water from time to time and an occasional weed to pull (rarely) they are zero maintenance and look nice.


That also sounds like a great alternative. God any pictures of some


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Nope... No photos and at the moment I don't have a camera to get any. Sorry.

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Thanks for the thread! Who knew I had a fine growth of "desirable" clover in my lawn. I have a whole new perspective on the heterogeneity of my turf!

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Whenever a clover bloom appears in the lawn, My bride will often say, "Say isn't clover considered a weed, how does that look for someone who is a lawn care professional". I reply, "Well thank you Honey for noticing."

Pics or it didn't happen: Not this was early in the Spring when we got the new livestock, (Beau, the biscuit eater.(
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Whenever a clover bloom appears in the lawn, My bride will often say, "Say isn't clover considered a weed, how does that look for someone who is a lawn care professional". I reply, "Well thank you Honey for noticing."

Pics or it didn't happen: Not this was early in the Spring when we got the new livestock, (Beau, the biscuit eater.(
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Just tell her, you know the old saying .. "The Carpenter's house is the last one finished"
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A truly professional landscaper knows that not everything is a weed.

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