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post #16 of 102 Old 08-15-2019, 07:47 AM
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Re: JD or Husqvarna

To begin with, I am a Kubota bigot!

To me, one key is that even though you are going to start with "a couple of acres" you also indicate that you are thinking of clearing land and enlarging the footprint that you will be managing. I may be wrong, but a Garden Tractor just will not cut it 5 years down the road when a couple of acres becomes 4 or 5 acres. Also, think heavily about a front end loader (FEL). I owned a Kubota BX2230 to manage 5 acres and the biggest mistake I made was not buying an FEL. When I moved from Kentucky to Virginia, I sold the BX2230 and bought a BX2660 with an FEL and my back is ever grateful.

A second key is who in the local economy can perform maintenance. I am blessed by an exemplary Kubota dealer locally, but there are several independent shops that work on tractors of all sizes.

That all being said, I'd stick with Deere, Kubota, Kioti (they licensed to manufacture Kubota designs).

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I will need to buy a garden tractor to cultivate a couple of acres, 2 at first, then maybe clear some land and work on more. I really like the specs of Husqvarna GT52XLSi, (dif lock, strong enough tuff torqe transaxle) but I don't like their frame twisting and buckling. I want to use my tractor with a moldboard plow, cultivator, harrow etc. and maybe even with the front plow/loader. So I am really leaning towards JD x570, it's more expensive but in the long run what good is Husqvarna if the frame buckles. Also my terrain is uneven and we got a little bit of a slope. What would you guys choose? Someone said not to discount Cub Cadet, but I also have to look at dealerships, and around Fredericton New Brunswick there are not that many choices, I need to look at the future service, parts etc. Would JD X570 be a good choice?
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Personally by the sounds of the description I think a x5 series is gonna be to small. Cultivating 2 acres, clearing land, adding more land for cultivation, then have to assume there is land used as lawn, snow removal and various oddities, I would think a x7 series or similar sized competitive brand would be the minimum. Actually a sub compact or compact tractor would be more in line, series 1, or series 2. Yep budget just went out the window, but you will buy it once and be able to do what you have in mind and have a running machine years down the road.
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that is the beauty of John Deere in comparison to say Husky-- I dont disagree OP might need something bigger down the road. By buying a JD 500 series -- in 4 or 5 years he can trade it in ( if he needs something bigger) and get a good pct of his money back in trade in -- try trading in a 5 year old $3500 husky and wont get spit for it

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Don’t let anyone fool you- most of the time when you buy 20/30 year old tractor you are going to spend a lot of time wrenching on it. To some of the guys on this forum it’s no big deal, they have the time and the skill to rebuild anything. But don’t expect to buy a heavily used 20/30 year old tractor and not have to spend considerable time on it. Reliability also becomes an issue with high hour, 30 year old tractor

I think you will need to buy an electric sleeve hitch for the X570- you’ll need some weights. Easy to get into bracket creep, but I would seriously look at X580 (with hydraulics) and power steering for your intended use. The JD ( any of the 500 series) is light years better than Husky- besides weak frame ( not good if you intend to plow) they have steering issues and only have k66 tranny, while the JD 500s series have K72= 40% more torque to rear wheels
well exactly, I don't want to spend time wrenching on it, neither do I have the skill to do it
Is it possible to use the Johnny Products electric sleeve hitch on x5** ?
I noticed lots of people buy the John Deere brand sleeve hitch, which is mechanical, I don't know why they wouldn't go for the Johnny Products which also gives you a downward force.
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what am I missing?

Back in the day they built stuff meant to be maintained that you could pass on to your grand children. Now they build stuff meant to be replaced every 5 years or so. Push a throw away garden tractor past average homeowner use and you won't get that 5 years out of it...
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Back in the day they built stuff meant to be maintained that you could pass on to your grand children. Now they build stuff meant to be replaced every 5 years or so. Push a throw away garden tractor past average homeowner use and you won't get that 5 years out of it...
Not sure if you are talking about a JD 500 series tractor- but if you are nothing could be further from the truth. A new X570/580/590 will give 20/30 years of hard use if properly maintained


To still.try.decide - yes if you go with X570, the johnny Products electric sleeve hitch is way to go- with X580 or X590 JD sells hydraulic sleeve hitch for them - and that would be preferred way to go on them- faster response than electric hitch

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With that budget you can buy a used subcompact or compact tractor go look on tractorhouse.com.

Find a diesel with under 2,000 hours

You will actually have a lot options looking at used SCUT or CUTs.

Any JD x series hold the value so well

You can find a cheaper CUT with a FEL which is really what you need.

Actually a SCUT may be better for mowing

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Antique but will built and the 6 grand for that well maintained old critter well save you the 12 grand or more that an equal new one would cost. Lots more to look at than just hp and differentials.
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I have 2 GTs and love what they can do but also accept their limitations. I have 24 acres and really need ~a 25-30HP tractor. I have been getting by with my GTs but they are not what I or you need. You simply don't have enough weight and downforce with a GT to effectively plow or clear 2+ acres of land as you intend to do.

You'd be better served with a mower for the grass and a tractor for the tractor work. Look around for a low hour tractor with loader in the 25HP range and bite the bullet if needed. You'll be happier in the long run than trying to make a GT work in a role it's not heavy enough for. I wish I had bought a 25-30HP tractor 20yrs ago.

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thanks everybody,
Yes I know a garden tractor is not a real TRACTOR ... If I fine a good deal on somethign bigger I will consider it, esp. a x700 or a SCUT. Thanks for you advice. I still got time till the Spring but I want to start collecting attachments so I need to decide on sleeve hitch or 3 point. So far I am leaning toward a x500 JD, with wheel weights, electric sleeve hitch, chains.
I've been thinking about what I need the tractor for, and I may have misrepresented the size and work. We have 4 acres, but minus the house, the driveway, etc. only 1 acre needs extensive plowing and tilling, the rest is orchard, and garden plots which can be done by hand, I don't even know if I could get in to do some work on them with a tractor. Basically think, hobby farm, organic patches etc. It's not monoculture that's done by machines. However I need to first plow an acre or 2 becuase right now it's just grass that hasn't been touched in years. But after the initial plowing, it shouldn't require that much work. So it's hard for me to see a big tractor on that land, however a SCUT could be nice.
I've seen videos and testimonies of people cultivating with garden tractors. Craftsman, JDs etc. and there are videos of the Brinly Moldboard plow doing just fine against grass, pulled by a garden tractor.
Also the land would not be easy to navigate by a large tractor, due to a small ditch and some other features, I could reshape the layout, in time, but now I want to get started and get it done. There is the Youtube channel Farpoint farms where the guy cultivates his land (6 acres) with garden tractors, and it works. Sure it may not be as effective and efficient as a large tractor, but you have to consider your budget, and convenience, such as, a large tractor requires bigger storage, more fuel, more maintenance etc. And for me, just trying to imagine a tractor working the land that we have I have trouble placing a large machine on that field.
Also, New Brunswick is not Pennsylvania, or Wisconsin, there are way fewer people, fewer farmers, and less equipment to choose from. So it's not as easy to find a good deal on a used tractor. For John Deere we have a couple of dealerships in the area, so that would work.
Thanks for all the responses.

But I am one step closer because it has become clear that Husqvarna is out, though they look so appealing on paper, lock diff, Tuff torque66 , etc.
thank you

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Not sure if you are talking about a JD 500 series tractor- but if you are nothing could be further from the truth. A new X570/580/590 will give 20/30 years of hard use if properly maintained


To still.try.decide - yes if you go with X570, the johnny Products electric sleeve hitch is way to go- with X580 or X590 JD sells hydraulic sleeve hitch for them - and that would be preferred way to go on them- faster response than electric hitch
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I have 2 GTs and love what they can do but also accept their limitations. I have 24 acres and really need ~a 25-30HP tractor. I have been getting by with my GTs but they are not what I or you need. You simply don't have enough weight and downforce with a GT to effectively plow or clear 2+ acres of land as you intend to do.

You'd be better served with a mower for the grass and a tractor for the tractor work. Look around for a low hour tractor with loader in the 25HP range and bite the bullet if needed. You'll be happier in the long run than trying to make a GT work in a role it's not heavy enough for. I wish I had bought a 25-30HP tractor 20yrs ago.
X570 is almost there, isn''t it? 24hp.
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I have 2 GTs and love what they can do but also accept their limitations. I have 24 acres and really need ~a 25-30HP tractor. I have been getting by with my GTs but they are not what I or you need. You simply don't have enough weight and downforce with a GT to effectively plow or clear 2+ acres of land as you intend to do.

You'd be better served with a mower for the grass and a tractor for the tractor work. Look around for a low hour tractor with loader in the 25HP range and bite the bullet if needed. You'll be happier in the long run than trying to make a GT work in a role it's not heavy enough for. I wish I had bought a 25-30HP tractor 20yrs ago.
X570 is almost there, isn''t it? 24hp.
Not at all. There is no comparison between a 2500lb 25hp diesel tractor and a 600lb 25hp gas burning lawn tractor.

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Well, since the majority back the large tractor idea, can I just ask is John Deere 855 24hp Diesel strong enough?
This is certainly making me rethink my budgets
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Well, since the majority back the large tractor idea, can I just ask is John Deere 855 24hp Diesel strong enough?
This is certainly making me rethink my budgets
Thats a good small sized tractor that would probably make you very happy.

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