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post #31 of 65 Old 06-13-2019, 11:29 AM
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Re: Deck clogging issue.... help.

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On your Walker it would be a simple fab job to create baffles to eliminate the dead areas. Something similar to the Husky deck pic I posted. When I did my 44P mulch baffle I used 3" wide by 1/8" thick steel strap I got at Lowes. With a bit of thought the baffles for the Walker could be designed to bolt in if you don't have a welder.
There isn't really a lot I can change Rayjay. It simply fills up every area the blades do not actually come in contact with.

A lot of the problem I attribute to moisture content, as it fills in with gooey green paste.

Here's some pics of the deck from when I painted it:

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Blades are timed and rotate in opposite directions discharging thru what appears to be a box at the top center of pic.

PTO shaft, gearbox driven on top. There is a cover, not in the pic.

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post #32 of 65 Old 06-13-2019, 06:37 PM
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I've wondered how attaching some string trimmer line 90 degrees out would do ? I used to have a brush mower that was basically a wheeled string trimmer on steroids. It used. .156 line. The line holder was basically a cup with 2 pairs of holes opposite. You put an app. 14" of string through the holes on one side and then back under the loop you just formed. I learned to keep precut string on the unit so I was ready when I bumped the string head on a stump. I just now thought of welding a 'guard' on the cup to protect the string attachment point.
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Sure a lot of “fab deck” bashing when most of the high end commercial ZTRs have fabricated decks.
Maybe missing something? I’ll take a picture, in a couple of days, of the GTH deck that’s been used several times since the last cleaning. It doesn’t clog up unless the grass is wet when cutting and it’s the 52” fab deck.
this should solve the OP's problem.
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post #34 of 65 Old 06-13-2019, 07:13 PM
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It depends on how sharp or dull the blades are. If they are dull, it just squeezes the juice out and flings it against the inside of the deck.
i have to agree, we are just bashing the juices out of the clippings if the blades are dull.

The blades on the Walker deck pictured previously were just sharpened to the point you could cut your fingers on them the day before and still they make green paste.

I truly believe it is a moisture content problem and not the fault of the deck.

If you have ever put some greens in the Wife's kitchen blender and turned it on, you get an idea of what is happening.

A side discharge deck with both blades turning in the same direction would probably exit the clippings quickly and not be such a problem. With the center discharge deck the clippings must wait their turn to go up the chute and no doubt get struck many times before exiting.

This is our wettest spring on record so a lot of inbetween mowings simply get missed making the loading on the bagger even heavier.

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Take a pic one day when it's clogged up. Thanks
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Sure a lot of “fab deck” bashing when most of the high end commercial ZTRs have fabricated decks.
Maybe missing something? I’ll take a picture, in a couple of days, of the GTH deck that’s been used several times since the last cleaning. It doesn’t clog up unless the grass is wet when cutting and it’s the 52” fab deck.
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this should solve the OP's problem.
As expected, there was very little buildup under the deck and today I cut 6-8” grass along the ditch that had standing water in it so I know I was cutting wet grass. At the back of the lawn, it’s been too wet to cut at all so the grass was taller than the front wheels and heavy. Moisture built up on the front wheels so I could only make a pass or two. The widow that lives there said she had 2 1/2” in her rain gauge over the last couple of days. I’m attaching pictures under the deck, how much I removed, and the tools I use to clean it (chain hoist, jack stand, automotive creeper, & a 1 1/2” putty knife). As you can see, it doesn’t build up the same as the OP, but I believe the deck is the same 52” fabricated deck as the OP has. Like I said, there’s something else in the equation that’s not the same.
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You can see how the airflow on the rh blade is so much better than the others with the left being the worst.
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As expected, there was very little buildup under the deck and today I cut 6-8” grass along the ditch that had standing water in it so I know I was cutting wet grass. At the back of the lawn, it’s been too wet to cut at all so the grass was taller than the front wheels and heavy. Moisture built up on the front wheels so I could only make a pass or two. The widow that lives there said she had 2 1/2” in her rain gauge over the last couple of days. I’m attaching pictures under the deck, how much I removed, and the tools I use to clean it (chain hoist, jack stand, automotive creeper, & a 1 1/2” putty knife). As you can see, it doesn’t build up the same as the OP, but I believe the deck is the same 52” fabricated deck as the OP has. Like I said, there’s something else in the equation that’s not the same.
I'm guessing that the standing water washed a lot of debris away.

I've always heard fabricated decks were hard to beat.

I have one on my Ingersoll 4018, I never noticed it building up underneath but I haven't used it a lot either.

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It would be interesting to add a radiused section of steel to the areas where there is build up. You can see the areas of high airflow as there is no grass stuck [ or paint for that matter ].

You guys need to quit fertilizing your grass !!
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RT3360...
It does look as that your mower does stay pretty clean underneath. Next time I use the Husq, i'll lift it up before cleaning it out and take a few pictures to show how much it collects and build up. I wish mine stayed that clean.
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Re: Deck clogging issue.... help.

This is a 52" fab deck from a GT 52XLS. My cousin mows pasture with it. He loves it because of how strong it is when running into inanimate objects


If this was mine, the first thing I would try is new blades with higher lift to create more turbulence under the deck.

If you wanted to swap decks, the hanger locations are the same as the stamped 42", 46", and 54" decks of similar year models.
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The first thing I would do is get rid of the forward baffle between the LH and center blades. You can see the two clean areas where air is exiting the center and rh blades. There is basically no cleaned off area for the lh blade.

I would also form a fillet out of steel that would mimick what the grass build up is doing on the rear baffles and anywhere else the grass builds up into a spacing filling wedge.
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I am also amazed when engineering this bad makes it to full production. What happened to the prototype and testing phase ? The answer is that it never happened. The "sales engineers" decided they wanted to offer a fabricated deck so they and the "bean counter engineers" got together and designed one and sent the blueprints off to production. No need to get the mechanical engineers involved. Alert the advertising dept about the new option and on to the next project.

All too common nowadays. I think I will search for some pics of fabricated decks from JD just to compare and see if they look better engineered.
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Wow, check out the pic in post 12. This must be similar to what the OP of this thread is battling. The deck in the pic has the mulching kit.

One thing to also notice is the distance from the front edge of the deck shell to the blade tip on the RH spindle [ the actual deck shell, not the mulch kit baffle ]. The husky deck doesn't have this extra air path.

https://www.mytractorforum.com/12-jo...ge-please.html
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try removing the guard on the discharge too. If you haven't already.

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