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post #16 of 26 Old 05-19-2019, 09:37 PM Thread Starter
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It's probably 4 feet wide and it was a pull behind but I'm going to Fab something up to use with my sleeve hitch
I think they are easier to pull not put on a sleeve hitch for the most part. They float over and follow with the ground a little better generally from what I can tell, maybe not.
I think your probably right but I picked up an electric actuator with 900 lbs push pull for my sleeve hitch so I kinda want to try to be able to put some down force
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X2 on the pull behind disc. I tried turning my old brinley pull behind disc into a 3 point implement- thinking I’d get some down pressure and easier maneuverability. Any significant down pressure to the disc just took off downward pressure from the rear tires and caused them to spin.

By all means try it, see how it goes, and report back, but in my experience a heavier tractor would be needed to make it work in my soil conditions. I had it on an Ariens S-16h with rimgaurd filled ag tires and about 70lbs of wheel weight.
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X2 on the pull behind disc. I tried turning my old brinley pull behind disc into a 3 point implement- thinking I’d get some down pressure and easier maneuverability. Any significant down pressure to the disc just took off downward pressure from the rear tires and caused them to spin.

By all means try it, see how it goes, and report back, but in my experience a heavier tractor would be needed to make it work in my soil conditions. I had it on an Ariens S-16h with rimgaurd filled ag tires and about 70lbs of wheel weight.
I'm going to go with both of you guys opinion plus it will be a lot less work he fix the pull behind section that's it broke. Off
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Finished up converting my manual sleeve hitch to electric. I pitch the hitch up for $80 thr actuator on Craig's for 100 and I used a heavy duty winch wiring kit for $50
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Finished up converting my manual sleeve hitch to electric. I pitch the hitch up for $80 thr actuator on Craig's for 100 and I used a heavy duty winch wiring kit for $50
That doesn't look like a bad idea. You might be on to a great idea using the sleeve hitch for a reasonable amount of raising and lowering control using it as a regular hitch.
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Finished up converting my manual sleeve hitch to electric. I pitch the hitch up for $80 thr actuator on Craig's for 100 and I used a heavy duty winch wiring kit for $50
That doesn't look like a bad idea. You might be on to a great idea using the sleeve hitch for a reasonable amount of raising and lowering control using it as a regular hitch.
I'll take a new pic in the morning I ended up raising the back plate another inch and a half so I could get some more lift. I did a decent amount of plowing today the hitch worked great but even with ag tires, 50lbd wheel weights and the locker on I still bogged down a lot. So filling the rears with fluid in the morning
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Throw some chains on there if you think your tranny can handle it.

Turf tires are not great in dirt. I put a set of Carlisle AG tires on my John Deere rider and boy it made a big difference.
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Throw some chains on there if you think your tranny can handle it.

Turf tires are not great in dirt. I put a set of Carlisle AG tires on my John Deere rider and boy it made a big difference.
I ran it again today with no traction issues but I had AG tires filled with water and 50lbs wheel weights
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I tried turning my old brinley pull behind disc into a 3 point implement- thinking Id get some down pressure and easier maneuverability. Any significant down pressure to the disc just took off downward pressure from the rear tires and caused them to spin.
99.99% of all tractor 3 point hitches have no down force other than gravity. I'm guessing that the change in geometry from the sleeve hitch to the 3 point hitch setup put the disc farther to the rear which increased its downward force from gravity due to the longer moment arm.

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99.99% of all tractor 3 point hitches have no down force other than gravity. I'm guessing that the change in geometry from the sleeve hitch to the 3 point hitch setup put the disc farther to the rear which increased its downward force from gravity due to the longer moment arm.
I assume GT's don't have draft control do they? So it can get tough pulling a disc with a GT without draft control raising it. I've seen lots of GT's pulling a disc on Youtube and the driver has to constantly raise and lower the sleeve hitch so the GT can pull it. Some have to also adjust the 3 pt. hitch as well. Am I missing something here?

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Sleeve hitches definitely do not have draft control. As for GT 3 point hitches, I've never done a through analysis from brand to brand and model to model, but I believe that some might be draft control only while others might be position control only, mostly depending on when they were made and what their primary purpose was going to be. I think that the older ones are more likely to have draft control while newer ones are more likely to have position control.

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