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post #1 of 7 Old 04-18-2019, 06:39 PM Thread Starter
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4 bolt 12” wheels, bolt spacing?

My Dixie Chopper X2002 has big balloon type tires size 22x11-8. I have some nice newer turf tread 23x10.5-12 tires from another tractor I parted out. I have seen newer Cub Cadet and some MTD tractors with 4 bolt 12” rear wheels. Does anyone know the exact bolt spacing? About 8 years ago I got some rear tires and wheels from a small Cub Cadet ZTR and they were really tight going on my 117 Groundsmaster. It was even harder getting them off.

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Re: 4 bolt 12” wheels, bolt spacing?

I've took a grind stone and just slightly relieved (made just a itty bit larger) the rims center hole so as it would slip fit over the hub flange so as to get lawn tractor wheels to go on and off easier. Usually just use a electric drill and a small grinder stone and I have also sometimes slightly beveled the front sharp edge of the hub flange.

To get your 4 hole bolt spacing just measure center to center for a 4 bolt pattern. (then search on-line for the MTD rims spacing. (lots of info online about how to measure rim bolt spacing)
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Re: 4 bolt 12” wheels, bolt spacing?

Not positive but I'm pretty sure most 4 bolt tractors are 4" spacing. Golf carts and utility vehicles are too if they are 4 bolt.

Center hole may be different between various machines, though. Also watch your back spacing so tires don't rub on the fenders or chassis when swapping stuff around like this.

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My 4 hole Cub wheels are 4" spacing.
Here are some 8.5" wide 4/4s.

https://www.ebay.com/i/350701831707?...14fe5bffe65340

7" wide are much cheaper but the tires will sit taller and more rounded at the tread.

https://www.chapmoto.com/slasher-pro...SABEgJ37PD_BwE

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Re: 4 bolt 12” wheels, bolt spacing?

Some rims can be reversed when bolting on to correct for spacing.

If any lawn mower salvages in your area or someone that works on lots of riders and has scrapped machines would be worth a look. (so as to keep price within reason)

I've bought complete riding mowers with 4 good tires that are holding air attached for less than one new tire costs. (mower not running bad motor or no motor, etc) just to get the tires.

Have to be careful, some of them salvage operators are MARRIED to their eq and prices are to high for JUNK.
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Re: 4 bolt 12” wheels, bolt spacing?

Yeah, I've reversed rims to correct for backspacing, or just to make the tractor wider for better stability.


Even if the lug nut holes are not beveled on that side they hold fine once torqued. I've never had an issue.

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Re: 4 bolt 12” wheels, bolt spacing?

Back in the day,we used to break off the hub cap clips on VW Beetle rims and put them on backwards to gain width and clearance for big tires!..despite the rim holes being "coined" for the "other side" ,the rims stayed on OK,you did have to tighten the lugs every few miles 2-3 times and the lugs would seat finally and stay tight..
I would say its safe to flip rims on a garden tractor with a top speed under 10 mph..

Many trailer 4 lug rims are 4" bolt circle,so are some cars like old Vega's and Chevette's..(and probably many more)...
I know some older MTD 990's had a 4 bolt pattern much larger ,more like 5" bolt pattern..and it was discussed in another thread on MTF years ago,it was determined few if any cars used a 4 bolt 5" (or 127 mm) bolt pattern,1968 + up VW Beetles had one close at 130 mm..


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