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post #1 of 21 Old 04-17-2019, 12:45 PM Thread Starter
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Anyone have a Troy Bilt Tractor?

Does anyone have a new or older Troy Bilt Tractor? If so,what model do you have and what do you mainly do with it? Just mow or other work as well? I use my Pony 7 Speed for everything. Hauling, mowing, yard sweeper, work on gravel lane with 5.5 foot drag, homemade scraper blade made from two barn scrapers for cleaning out livestock areas, light ground engaging work. I do everything in the lower three gears. Not sure how long it will last doing all this kind of stuff. Bought it last fall and have at least 125 hours on it. On it everyday weather permitting. No problems yet.

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I have one that's about 20 years old still runs good and mows, but all the plastic body pieces are broken and removed. The steering is a mess the cheap setup they have, and it's made by MTD.

Other then that it was a good mower don't remember the model no. but I think it's a 25hp and 46" cut.
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I have a GTX 20, the last of the Bolens designed tractors. (1999) It's not at the level of the HT 23's but it's close.
People have put FEL's on GTX's along with blades and other ground contact attachments. Hydro, hi/low rear, power steering, cruise.

I wouldn't buy anything later.

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I guess only three of use have one.
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Re: Anyone have a Troy Bilt Tractor?

Work on many of the MTD ones from 1997-2008 and up.

The 7 speed "shift on the fly" is a double sheave two belt pulley system and is one of the most durable trans you will find.
Yours should have a clutch/brake pedal on left side. They also used same pulley drive system but put a gas pedal on right side that is even easier to use.
This one mimics a hydro in use except that you have a F/N/R selector where as with a hydro you push pedal other way (down usually on plastic on "floor board") to go in reverse.
Hyrdros , at least the K46 that dominates them, are much more delicate than this trans.

The steering is much better than Craftsman.
The pinch bolt on right front tire gets loose and allows a little slop and the drag link often gets loose at the fan gear that mates to the steering shaft small round gear and sometimes gets loose at front end too.
The fan gear itself sometimes gets loose and tightening the center pivot bolt can fix it right up.

Always use MTD brand belts ONLY and replace drive belts both at same time!

Yours probably has 42 inch deck and single OHV briggs.
Eventually the head gasket will blow and it will be a mosquito fogger, but fairly easy cheap fix.
I see most of them blow between 225 and 275 hrs but that is 9-11 years here and I think it is more heat cycles than hours dependent.
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I used to have two of them. I bought the first one , and LTX15.5, from the factory here in Troy, NY, before they closed it. Used that one for mowing and snow blowing until I became tired of attaching the blower. Then I bought a used LTx13 from a local dealer just for mowing. It lasted only one season and seized up. The dealer wanted $500 to repair it so I gave it away, sold the first one and bought the Kubota. The 15.5 was an excellent machine.
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Work on many of the MTD ones from 1997-2008 and up.

The 7 speed "shift on the fly" is a double sheave two belt pulley system and is one of the most durable trans you will find.
Yours should have a clutch/brake pedal on left side. They also used same pulley drive system but put a gas pedal on right side that is even easier to use.
This one mimics a hydro in use except that you have a F/N/R selector where as with a hydro you push pedal other way (down usually on plastic on "floor board") to go in reverse.
Hyrdros , at least the K46 that dominates them, are much more delicate than this trans.

The steering is much better than Craftsman.
The pinch bolt on right front tire gets loose and allows a little slop and the drag link often gets loose at the fan gear that mates to the steering shaft small round gear and sometimes gets loose at front end too.
The fan gear itself sometimes gets loose and tightening the center pivot bolt can fix it right up.

Always use MTD brand belts ONLY and replace drive belts both at same time!

Yours probably has 42 inch deck and single OHV briggs.
Eventually the head gasket will blow and it will be a mosquito fogger, but fairly easy cheap fix.
I see most of them blow between 225 and 275 hrs but that is 9-11 years here and I think it is more heat cycles than hours dependent.
Wow, you sure know a lot about these. So you work on them? Hard for me to believe they are that tough. But, I had three Cub dealers and an independent - Toro dealer tell me, before I bought this, that this tranny is as tough as a K58. One said he believes the belt is the limiting factor. The tranny should hold up well for the most part. All I know is it really has performed well so far. If it can't do something it just spins of course. TB even offers two 45 LBS' ish weights for each rear wheel I think. Seems to me to never be under any stress at all. I never shift on the go. I love the little thing. There is a guy on here thinking of buying one. You should answer his thread and help him out.Thanks for your help. It is great info!!

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The sad part is on the newer ones it's getting harder and harder to find that transmission set up and MTD was the king of using it for the past 20 years.
They are going to hydros whether it be K 46 or the stupid new general RS Transmissions that are plastic housing that have an extra belt in our already having issues and failures in the first two to three years. I have told people forever that more than likely you will burn up the belt on a Troy-Bilt before you will damage the transmission with that type of 2 belt setup. I'd only seen one of the rear axles go bad and that was because it was dropped off a truck and actually broke the aluminum housing which allowed the axle to ride up a little higher than it should which push down on the inner gears and created a tighter mesh than it should have had. It's still lasted 4 years like this.
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The sad part is on the newer ones it's getting harder and harder to find that transmission set up and MTD was the king of using it for the past 20 years.
They are going to hydros whether it be K 46 or the stupid new general RS Transmissions that are plastic housing that have an extra belt in our already having issues and failures in the first two to three years. I have told people forever that more than likely you will burn up the belt on a Troy-Bilt before you will damage the transmission with that type of 2 belt setup. I'd only seen one of the rear axles go bad and that was because it was dropped off a truck and actually broke the aluminum housing which allowed the axle to ride up a little higher than it should which push down on the inner gears and created a tighter mesh than it should have had. It's still lasted 4 years like this.
I've heard the hyro's under the k46 are pretty worthless. Wonder how the hydro's on the lower end JD's, lower than the K46 tranny's are? Not that I'm interested, just wonder since it's Deere.
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I used to have two of them. I bought the first one , and LTX15.5, from the factory here in Troy, NY, before they closed it. Used that one for mowing and snow blowing until I became tired of attaching the blower. Then I bought a used LTx13 from a local dealer just for mowing. It lasted only one season and seized up. The dealer wanted $500 to repair it so I gave it away, sold the first one and bought the Kubota. The 15.5 was an excellent machine.
That cab looks great!!
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I've heard the hyro's under the k46 are pretty worthless. Wonder how the hydro's on the lower end JD's, lower than the K46 tranny's are? Not that I'm interested, just wonder since it's Deere.
Deere uses the k46 but some have a different part number just because JD wants to be JD...where't the eye roll emoji???
They are same internally and give no better durability than the k46.
The k46 is fine for what it is made for- cutting grass on flat ground and no wheelies or being a heavy footed fool on the machine.
They used the k46 on the some of the old dealer only Deere LT models but some of those used K51 too.
They lasted a long time and many are still mowing with original trans but others have gotten weak.
The trans would be the weak link on these machines.

All stems form trying ot make them TOO user friendly.
I am fine with a F/N/R lever and push pedal/gas pedal style like on many MTD Troy Bilts and Cub Cadets.
I don't like the let up left side clutch near as much and I like the old 5 and 6 sp even less.
The hydro makes is easiest to operate and unfortunately they have chosen ease of use over durability.
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Work on many of the MTD ones from 1997-2008 and up.

The 7 speed "shift on the fly" is a double sheave two belt pulley system and is one of the most durable trans you will find.
Yours should have a clutch/brake pedal on left side. They also used same pulley drive system but put a gas pedal on right side that is even easier to use.
This one mimics a hydro in use except that you have a F/N/R selector where as with a hydro you push pedal other way (down usually on plastic on "floor board") to go in reverse.
Hyrdros , at least the K46 that dominates them, are much more delicate than this trans.

The steering is much better than Craftsman.
The pinch bolt on right front tire gets loose and allows a little slop and the drag link often gets loose at the fan gear that mates to the steering shaft small round gear and sometimes gets loose at front end too.
The fan gear itself sometimes gets loose and tightening the center pivot bolt can fix it right up.
Always use MTD brand belts ONLY and replace drive belts both at same time!

Yours probably has 42 inch deck and single OHV briggs.
Eventually the head gasket will blow and it will be a mosquito fogger, but fairly easy cheap fix.
I see most of them blow between 225 and 275 hrs but that is 9-11 years here and I think it is more heat cycles than hours dependent.
The local Rural King has everything or can get all the stuff needed. At the rate I'm putting hours on this the head gasket should be gone by late summer or a little before. I will be putting lots of hours on it. It says 547 CC OHV.
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The local Rural King has everything or can get all the stuff needed. At the rate I'm putting hours on this the head gasket should be gone by late summer or a little before. I will be putting lots of hours on it. It says 547 CC OHV.
I think you have the MTD engine. Or is there a brand name on it??
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After using the rocker peddle used on the old Bolens and the GTX, I can't imagine using any other.
The instant forward/reverse is great. BTW the trans is an Eaton 11.

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