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post #1 of 66 Old 04-01-2019, 10:26 PM Thread Starter
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No oil changes ...ever?

Saw this on another tractor forum
https://www.briggsandstratton.com/na...k-and-add.html
thought that it would be an interesting topic of discussion on here
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Re: No oil changes ...ever?

The engines are out lasting the mowers... They don't need them to last more than a few years. It's a throw away world anymore...


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They want to sell more engines.

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Re: No oil changes ...ever?

My Toro mower has a Kohler engine with the same claim. If you do want to change it you have to turn the machine on itís side. Where there would be a drain plug is just polished over casting.

Will I change it? Iíll watch the level, color, and odor but I think this will work out under the conditions I subject it to. My only complaint last year was how quickly the air filter would get clogged up due to its position and design.
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Heck people have been doing that for 60 years...

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Re: No oil changes ...ever?

The only reason you need to change oil is because it gets dirty, so they are claiming it doesn't get dirty with the new and improved engine. Without a oil filter I don't see why it would go forever with no oil change.

The thin decks they put on mowers they usually rust away or crack and break before the engines go bad. So I can see where they can make a claim like that.
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.......sign of the times.

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LOL i've had a few trucks like that. "burn and leak the oil"

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Re: No oil changes ...ever?

Honestly, I do not see how they can claim 'no oil changes'. (1)Oil turns black from the soot particles from the combustion process. There is no way around that. More soot is not good for lubricating purposes. (2)Blended oil that is commonly used, such as 10W-30, degrades over time. That means that the lubricating properties eventually go away. (3)Yes, fuel that has ethanol blended into can degrade in 30 days since the ethanol attracts water moisture in the air which inhibits how well it burns. Using another product that also has an opened shelf life is not an exact cure.

I use fuel that does not contain ethanol which I know for a fact lasts much longer than 30 days. Depending on conditions, sometimes oil is changed once a month. I use non-blended oil such as straight 30W, mainly because I do not operate a B&S engine below 30℉.
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I've had oil samples done on my diesel trucks and at 12,000 miles they said the oil was still good for more miles. I go 15,000 to 20,000 miles on a oil change just change the filter every 5,000 miles.
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I hope this doesn't mean briggs will stop selling their brand of oil. That's just about the only straight 30 weight I can find around me any more.

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Re: No oil changes ...ever?

Briggs and Stratton claims that their new engine design "runs at a cooler temperature, allowing the oil to remain useable."

I own one, and mine burns some oil. It has since new. My theory is that it burns off the old oil, so that when the owner would check the oil, they would add new oil, and this cycle would continue as the oil gets burned.

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Heck people have been doing that for 60 years...
A guy I used to work with has a push mower to get the areas that his rider won,t go. He has had it for 10 plus years and just adds oil and gas as needed. Never changes the oil ,never sharpens the blade ,never puts stabil in it. Always starts and get jammed under the shrubs, and around trees, and fence post. Beats the crap out of it ,says it is easier than dealing with a weed wacker.
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I hope this doesn't mean briggs will stop selling their brand of oil. That's just about the only straight 30 weight I can find around me any more.
I buy straight 30 online!

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