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post #16 of 32 Old 09-21-2018, 02:31 PM
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Re: What is the biggest baddest Super-GT ever made?

I think every suggestion made her is a good one, but I think an old Farm tractor like the Fords that are listed...or a CASE or IH or MF, or AC would be economical to buy and there are a lot of interchangeable 3 point attachments available for them...if you are thinking new...you should consider diesel and go Kubota

But as Lance points out it is a matter of personal preference and the availability and prices of used stuff does seem to vary with which part of the country you are in
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So, you have a large list of tasks at hand here.... And your going to do that all with a potentially old to very old gas equipped super GT? Will it do it? Sure. Will it do it economically without breaking the bank? Doubtful.

First you need to consider that virtually all super GT's used brand specific attachments, and finding it all in one package is going to be tough. And when you do, your likely going to be paying collector prices for it. This is assuming everything is in top notch working condition, which it probably wont be; requiring you to have to get everything back into tip top shape to make it dependable again. Can it be done? Yes. Is it a great idea for a primary worker? Again, doubtful, all things considered.

There is a time and place for the vintage stuff, I actually prefer them myself on most occasions, however, I really think you should take the advice that most of us offered you in your other thread and get over your distaste for diesels and go with a new SCUT. There is a reason they are ALL diesel powered, but you already know that. Coming from your other thread, keep in mind that nothing in the used market is going to get you even close to 10,000 hours unless its diesel. Nothing.

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Old Ford 9N, 8N, or 2N or the Ferguson models of the same. That's your best bet money wise and gets you a gasser. I've seen them on CL all day long in the 2K-5K range and in various forms of quality. There's actually a Ferguson on CL right now with a loader and a handful of attachments that someone drug out of a line fence for cheap. https://milwaukee.craigslist.org/grd...667869395.html

Where abouts in WI?

The problem I see with a GT and all you want to do, is it's still a GT and finding all those brand specific attachments is going to be difficult and pricey. Once you step up to a tractor with the proper size three point on it then the availability and resale of attachments expands a lot.
That one is a parts machine / scrap metal.
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Elaborate? Is that more than a High/Low Range selector like my LS MT125 has?
Hope. Same thing as in all of the SCUTs. HI for travelling, LO for serious (ie high axle torque) work when sufficient ballast is incorporated.

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The Ingersoll/Case loaders are great machines for loader/dirt/grading work. But, mowing with a loader in front is no fun. The 4xx/4xxx machines are much better at mowing, and with a rear hitch and/or front blade, can handle grading. The snowcasters are pretty much universal across all Case tractors, and can be modded to fit later Ingy versions. Their transaxles are pretty much the same, loader/mower/old/new. IMO, their mower decks are as good as or better than any. The hydraulic, reversible, tillers are excellent, and again, universal through the years.


Older smaller farm tractors, Ford N, etc, are fine for most of the work, but again, IMO, are not good mowers for a lot of reasons. Belly mowers are complicated to fit, trans PTOs don't run the mower when the clutch in disengaged, rear mount mowers are a pain in the neck, literally etc. Turning circle way to big.
In addition, if you wish to rototill with one, they are way too fast in low gear for a tiller.
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I want a SCUT, but more than the "SCUT" classification I want a gas engine beast of a workhorse (see https://www.mytractorforum.com/320-s...gas-scuts.html for my reasoning on gas).

My primary chores are:
Mowing just under 4 acres - I have an offset pull-behind mower so presently I mow about 90" wide.
Maintaining about 700 feet of gravel driveway (grading in summer and plowing/blowing in WI winters)
Maintaining the 20'x50' garden (which may be expanding back to the 1/4 acre garden it used to be).
Other small-acreage chores like pulling wagons, skidding logs to the burn-pile.
Hopefully 3-pt/540RPM PTO attachments like a pressure-washer, log splitter, bigger tiller, bigger snowblower.
Hopefully FEL tasks like spreading mulch/dirt/compost, digging/leveling for a patio, moving snowbanks.

The three baddest machines I can come up with are the JD 445, the Simplicity Legacy XL, and the Ingersoll 7020. Can anyone come up with some other gas alternatives?
Well the Biggest I can think of from the Past

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Power King or Snapper clone of the 1990's

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There are just to many Super garden tractors to list that fall under( biggest baddest Super-GT ever made)

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To do everything on that list he must be retired with no kids. Surprise no one mentioned David - Brown or were they of a different class?
Far from it, that's why I need a bigger badder tractor...to get chores done quicker and get back to my family.
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...get over your distaste for diesels and go with a new SCUT. There is a reason they are ALL diesel powered..
It's not a "distaste" like how I hate the herb rosemary, it's almost a physical aversion to nonsense. I cannot bring myself to pay a huge up-front premium to take on what I believe to be a supremely inferior fuel *FOR MY NEEDS*, especially when the other 12 or 15 or whatever number of engines I own are all gasoline. As I stated in the other thread, my tractor needs to start without being plugged in when barely covered when it's -20*F and the driveway is drifted over. I want standard 540 rear PTO and cat0 or cat1 3-pt for cheap universal attachments. I was wondering if there's something in the super-ultra-mega-GT realm that might fit the bill. You will never convince me that in the under 50 HP range a new tier 4 diesel is a better value (ALL costs considered) than a closed-loop EFI gas engine. I would take a propane engine as an alternative to gas... I just got a new 1,000 gallon propane tank delivered last week so with under $200 in valves/fittings/hose I could fuel it.

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If you are talking about getting something with a closed-loop EFI, that would have to be relatively new.
Maybe the only player is the X7xx Deere's, and maybe the Legacy XL's, not sure if MTD even makes anything like that.
Is your budget in the $10-$14 k range?
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It doesn't have to be closed-loop EFI, it has to be gas. If I'm getting new because that's the best tool for the scenario then it should probably be closed-loop EFI because it seems stupid to give up those benefits. The x700s are open-loop EFI to my knowledge (barely better than a carburetor) and they don't do compound implements. So far I'm thinking the Ingersol from my first post or a liquid cooled (older) Simplicity Legacy XL are probably the top contenders but I need to read up on some of the other machines mentioned.
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My mistake, with your talk of the "value " of the closed-loop EFI gas I thought that's what you wanted.
Personally I think you are way over thinking this, it's just a tractor, get one that you think will do the job,
and if it doesn't either part with it or add to it. No biggie.



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I think alot of people try this 'one tractor for everything' plan but I also think most everyone gives up on that idea pretty quick, constantly swapping attachments gets old real fast.... especially with a fel because nobody wants to be taking that off/on all the time. To get a Do All machine with readily available attachments, that are also relatively easy to swap on/off... your best bet is new or near new with a budget of 10k+. Theres plenty of older tractors that can Do All but finding all the attachments can be a challenge and swapping those attachments can be a royal pita... besides... I have yet to meet anyone that is content with just one tractor, we all start with one... likely on suggestion from the significant other... but it doesnt work that way for long.
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Agreed, I'm on my 4th with plans to sell and get a 5th. Not sure yet whether there will be 2 or 1 tractors, likely 1 for grass/leaves and 1 for snow/dirt.




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I have yet to meet anyone that is content with just one tractor, we all start with one... but it doesn't work that way for long.
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I think alot of people try this 'one tractor for everything' plan but I also think most everyone gives up on that idea pretty quick, constantly swapping attachments gets old real fast.... especially with a fel because nobody wants to be taking that off/on all the time. To get a Do All machine with readily available attachments, that are also relatively easy to swap on/off... your best bet is new or near new with a budget of 10k+. Theres plenty of older tractors that can Do All but finding all the attachments can be a challenge and swapping those attachments can be a royal pita... besides... I have yet to meet anyone that is content with just one tractor, we all start with one... likely on suggestion from the significant other... but it doesnt work that way for long.


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