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post #1 of 8 Old 04-05-2019, 02:16 PM Thread Starter
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Oil on plugs

2004 Kawasaki FH580V in my John Deere LX280 with 207 hours.

Original owner had carb. problems (ethanol) Replaced the carb and put the wrong gasket between carb and intake.
He couldn't figure out why it wouldn't run right and pulled the engine apart down to and including the heads.

I replaced the head gaskets and put it back together.Took me a while to figure out the gasket issue and installed the correct gasket from carb to intake.

It runs well,have used it about 50 hours.
On start up I get a small puff of smoke.I just pulled the plugs to find the threads wet with oil.

I did a compression test and both are the same at 600
No oil on the outside of the engine.

Have done searches but not coming up with anything
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post #2 of 8 Old 04-13-2019, 03:59 PM
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Re: Oil on plugs

If compression is good, then I guess it aint blowby. Could it be running too rich? The oil isn't overfilled, is it? The motor didn't get tipped over, did it? if the smoke is only on startup, I wouldn't worry bout it.
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Re: Oil on plugs

Actually, by looking at your plugs, there aint nothing wrong. They look fine. Just a little rich-running. That black shiny stuff on the threads is just oil and carbon sludge, its normal. As long as the electrode aint too wet, its all good.
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Re: Oil on plugs

I'm going to put a new set of plugs in it and see how they look.
Will keep checking over time.

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Re: Oil on plugs

I had a lx279 that had the Kawasaki liquid cooled it did the same thing just a little blue smoke on start up from the pictures the plugs look ok maybe a little rich. The dealer told me not to idle it very long and when using it run it wide open otherwise one of the cylinders will run richer and you will have plug problems.

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Re: Oil on plugs

Put new plugs in and make sure air filter is clean and not restricted in any way.
Had a zero turn with twin kawi come in and the large round air filter box had been pushed forward and it made the intake tube bend and kink a little. Ir ran ans cur but staving for air.
I hate those fixes...Someone calls me and I talk to them for 5-10 mins...then they call back to come bring it in, they come in with mower.
I see problem and fix it in 15 seconds...right in front of them so it's not much money.
I run a shop so I need to spend my time fixing the ones here lined up that make money.
Oh well. This is here it become an ethic problem and I have some of those....too nice to people and won't overcharge.
I could take it in.
Do compression check, check to power from both cylinders (because from his description on phone I suspected running on one cyl) whatever else, then fixed it and charge a typical shop price or minimum labor rate etc....
But, alas...I know I'll get his future business.
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Re: Oil on plugs

It's not over filled
Never tipped over.

Air filter changed 50 hrs. ago when engine was reassembled.
Found some oil in the air filter box when I checked the plugs.

Looking into it running rich
John Deere maintenance manual says the carb is not adjustable.

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You gained a new customer and will get his good "word of mouth".
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Ethics... true but it's a lot nicer to do things for free or very little if you're making more money than you need to survive and save and get by. I haven't been in that situation since 2009 first quarter so sometimes you have to look at it like any other shop would charge them for your time to diagnose it and all the other time you have involved so you just take the machine in get to it when you get to it fix it and charge them. If you're nice like me and do it right in front of them they have a hard time liking the fact that you're charging them 40 to $60 for doing something that took you 15 seconds.
There's always different ways to look at things. If they're still getting a better deal from you doing it then another shop then they're actually getting a good deal right?? But then if you fix something with very little effort and 15 seconds is it really worth over $20 bill?? See other.
On another note and I'll probably start a new thread, I see this site still sucks and functions very poorly since the last upgrade they did which made everyone mad. Even when I exit enhanced mobile view it is almost unusable on my phone. That's probably why I haven't been around for the past almost a year. I go to Expedition forum and town car forum and both sites work flawlessly.
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