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Seems like cordless batteies always dead when needed.

Never fails, when I just need to run one screw in with the cordless, none of my batteries have enough in them to help me.
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post #2 of 40 Old 06-14-2019, 07:58 PM
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Re: Seems like cordless batteies always dead when needed.

You are removing the batteries when not in use of course. I guess you can't have 3 of them in at once. The newer style battery DeWalt uses seems to stay up for a long time. In the year plus I have had mine, battery is always up.

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Re: Seems like cordless batteies always dead when needed.

Can you leave one on the charger?

Lithium batteries have a very slow self-discharge rate, they're much more likely to still be charged and usable when you need them.
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Re: Seems like cordless batteies always dead when needed.

I used to have that same problem, until I upgraded to Li-ion. NiCad and Ni-mh don't seem to hold a chage as long. I prefer DeWalt myself, but the Rigid ones we have at our shop are used much more frequently and less carefully than my own. We're having a house built, and I've noticed a lot of Milwaukee stuff... The pros know what's good and what isn't.

I have several different Ni-Cad batteries... All hosed. I'm considering buying the adapter so I can use my Li-ion batteries in my old tools.


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Re: Seems like cordless batteies always dead when needed.

I have all Milwaukee stuff, and never have a dead battery unless I've used it all the way down and didn't charge it.

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Re: Seems like cordless batteies always dead when needed.

The Lithium Ion batteries are quite an improvement over the old Ni-Cad, etc.

I've had cordless drills from the early nineties on, Makita, Freud, Porter Cable, DeWALT, use Milwaukee, DeWalt and Porter Cable at work. Never really used a Bosch much. My personal choice is Makita, it just fits my hand better.

As for the dead batteries, your drill is dated a little and therefore the batteries are dated also.

Cordless is great but you have to use the tool enough to make the investment worth it.

I buy seldom used tools, Oscillating tool, Hammer drills, Jig saw, Routers, etc. that are corded, they will work today and 10 years from today long after tool manufacturers move on to the next design in cordless tools.

You can buy replacement batteries from Interstate Batteries for about any major brand of cordless tools but you can buy a new drill for the same money a couple batteries would cost you.

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Re: Seems like cordless batteies always dead when needed.

All my stuff is old school, ( probably 2nd generation ) I bought my first 14 volt drill bout a year before the newer Makita drills & batteries came out & at the time the new stuff was lots more $$ since then I have the 14.4 volt drills lights & impacts.

It won't help to leave in charger, once battery is charged the charger turns off & won't come back on till the battery is removed & set back in.
A different model charger might keep a battery charged.

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Re: Seems like cordless batteies always dead when needed.

The cells in the batteries can also be replaced, but that isnít really cheap either.
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Re: Seems like cordless batteies always dead when needed.

Mine are lithium, don't seem to have this problem...

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Re: Seems like cordless batteies always dead when needed.

If you have several working tools, I would replace the batteries.

You might try this,

https://products.interstatebatteries...Details/342329

I have a DeWalt 9.0 volt that I haven't used in a long time, don't know about the batteries, two Freud 13.2 drills, top drill in it's day with a Rohm metal chuck, batteries or chargers are dead. Two Porter Cable 14.4 drills that the batteries died on. Three Makita 18.0 impacts, two white Makita drills, two blue Makita hammer drill/drivers, a Makita circular saw and flashlight.

I will always buy corded tools that are seldom used but a cordless jigsaw works great not having the cord pulling against you.

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Re: Seems like cordless batteies always dead when needed.

I have yet to own any cordless tools...

A cordless drill and sawsall can be handy,but only if the batteries are fully charged when you go to use them,and chances are good they will go dead before your task is completed..

I will put up with the aggravation of dragging out an extension cord to power corded tools,I find that less frustrating than having a battery die halfway thru a project..

Those cordless tools and batteries aren't cheap,and for a guy like me who'd use them only once in a blue moon,they would not be a good investment..for me at least..
The cordless tools are often heavier too,due to the weight of the battery..

At least with a corded tool you know it'll run when you pull the trigger and not die on you ,though I admit the cord can be a major PITA ,especially when working on a ladder..having it come unplugged just as you get to the top rung stinks!..


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Yeah, I prefer corded for a bunch of stuff, though the convenience of *working* cordless tools (especially ones where you only need them for a few minutes) is nice. Like you said, I know my corded stuff will work when I need it. And I can use it for 2 hours straight if I need to.

I do find it annoying that corded drills with clutches (nice for driving screws) aren't common.

I had 3 brands of cordless 18V tools, all with useless NiCd batteries, and I have some 6S 22V LiPo (Lithium Polymer) battery packs for a hobby. So I sacrificed a battery pack for each tool, removed the NiCd cells, and soldered in an external battery connector. I velcro & strap the LiPo battery to the side of the empty battery pack, plug in the lead, and I now I have 3 brands of 22V lithium-powered tools, which share common batteries. Not the sort of solution that would seem like a fun project to everyone, granted, but it was helpful to me. There was no way I was investing more into crappy NiCd batteries that would be garbage again in a few years.

I have several of the LiPo packs, I charge them on my hobby charger. I can probably charge them faster than I can drain them, so if I need to, I can use my lithium Franken-tools pretty much indefinitely.
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Re: Seems like cordless batteies always dead when needed.

Here is an idea that I copied [ more or less ]. Lets you swap batts between brands. It's really great for converting older NiCad tools to use modern Lithium batts.

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Re: Seems like cordless batteies always dead when needed.

I also bought several of these and have used 1 or 2 to make adaptors to other brand batts.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/20V-Battery...item1ede677083
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You can buy replacement batteries from Interstate Batteries for about any major brand of cordless tools but you can buy a new drill for the same money a couple batteries would cost you.

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Or you can rebuild the old batteries for about $15 each. Seems a less expensive alternative to buying replacement batteries from one of the most expensive battery stores on the planet. Just finished rebuilding the batteries on my 10 year old Bosch 14.4v just last weekend.
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