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post #31 of 40 Old 06-17-2019, 01:53 PM
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Re: Seems like cordless batteies always dead when needed.

Interesting. Does the battery have contacts for a balance connector, to use with the RC charger?

With just 2 contacts to the charger, it can't monitor individual cell voltages, and I would be very leery of charging it that way. That's dangerous.

But of you can connect the balance leads, so the charger can measure each cell, you *should* be able to charge it completely, and safely.

I'm guessing it's 3 cells? My chargers allow setting the type of lithium cell (LiPo, Li-Ion, etc), each of which have different charge-termination voltages. I guess I'd hope that you can charge this properly. An RC charger may be more capable/versatile than the included charger, if you're willing to deal with the inconvenience. And the responsibility to set the charger correctly each time, of course; it's not as friendly as just dropping the battery on its specially-made charger.
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post #32 of 40 Old 06-17-2019, 02:33 PM
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Re: Seems like cordless batteies always dead when needed.

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What I did is buy 3 Black and Decker 20v tools off CL. They were new from a surplus auction. The retailers can't be selling cordless tools that are very old so they auction them off by the trailer load. I bought a 'cordless broom' aka a blower for $25, a chainsaw [ 2.0 ah batt ] for $50 and something else [ a mouse sander I just remembered]. I sold the chainsaw without the batt for $30 and only have $20 in the 2.0 batt. So I have two 1.5 ah batts and the 2.0.

I have about every 18V tool B&D ever made. Most were bought for $5 to $10 ea. Blowers, weedeaters, 4 or 5 drills, 2 hex drivers, larger sander, sawzalls, circular saws, etc. With the adaptor I can use the long lasting lithium. The older 18v are generally of higher quality than the new 20v tools.

I also have a Stihl 36v chainsaw and recently bought a Milwaukee 16" M18 chainsaw off the HD site. It was a "special purchase" and came with a free extra 12 ah batt. I then scored an M18 1/2" drill and a matching 1/4" hex driver so I can use the batts for more than just the saw. Those M18 tools are awesome.
Where did you get a adapter for the 18V B&D's? I got tired of my 18v batteries not lasting much over a year and bought a Dewalt set of tools. Still have some B&D's that are still good if I could find batteries that would last.
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Re: Seems like cordless batteies always dead when needed.

I just answered my own question, I knew they made a adapter for Dewalt. Amazon has the B&D adapters, https://www.amazon.com/Adapter-Batte...82155512&psc=1
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post #34 of 40 Old 06-18-2019, 08:31 AM
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I bought mine off Ebay for about $8 with free shipping from China. I ended up buying 5 as I knew I would use 1 or 2 to make adaptors to let me use the B&D 20v batts on non-B&D tools. Also, I have lots of the B&D 18v tools so having multiple adaptors is convenient. Like the other day I had 4 or 5 drills in action on the same drilling job. I had 3 set up with progressively larger drill bits and one with a chamfering bit and then there were the impact drivers in use too.

This is where having lots of good batts and adaptors pays off. If someone doesn't do a lot of fab work then cordless may not be the best answer for them. Just buy a good extension cord.

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I know a lot of you swear by your Makitas, DeWalt, Milwaukee etc. But now you have to make adapters or rebuild the battery packs with inefficient old technology batteries. These companies and others forced you to buy all new tools! Me...I buy Ryobi exclusively and you know what?... The new lithium batteries also fit all of my old blue tools... Some of which are 20 years old! I respect the company for looking out for the consumer instead of making us buy all new tools just to switch to lithium. I might be wrong but I think Ryobi makes the Rigid tools also.
To stay on topic with the op though my lithium batteries are always up for the task. I use only 18v tools and batteries and my lithium batteries have held a charge for months.
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I know a lot of you swear by your Makitas, DeWalt, Milwaukee etc. But now you have to make adapters or rebuild the battery packs with inefficient old technology batteries. These companies and others forced you to buy all new tools! Me...I buy Ryobi exclusively and you know what?... The new lithium batteries also fit all of my old blue tools... Some of which are 20 years old! I respect the company for looking out for the consumer instead of making us buy all new tools just to switch to lithium. I might be wrong but I think Ryobi makes the Rigid tools also.
To stay on topic with the op though my lithium batteries are always up for the task. I use only 18v tools and batteries and my lithium batteries have held a charge for months.
Yeah, I get what youíre saying. While there isnít anything wrong with my other dewalt stuff other than my batteries, I do like my new 20v Li-ion droll. The battery is either good or it is dead. Iím not trying to drive in that one last screw for a half hour trying to completely discharge the battery. Moreover, even with my 12, 14.4, and 18v guns, the smallish 20v seems like it has a better power to weight ratio, AND it has a light on the front! Above all, itís nice that I can use my 20v batteries on my old and other brand ni-cad stuff.

I have several different voltages of DeWalt guns because I used to work on RVs. There were days Iíd use one for 6-8 hours straight on a big roof or metal job. It was just too tiring to use the 18v all day, but the 12v didnít have the guts to take out the larger screws. If drilling a large hole or running stabilizer jack up/down, the 18v was the ticket. Sometimes the 14.4 was awkward for delicate stuff and again too heavy to use over head for long periods. It was nice to have a variety.
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Re: Seems like cordless batteies always dead when needed.

I do applaud Ryobi for the way they handled the battery deal. I like the 1/2 impact I bought and use it often. I really like the 3 power settings.
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I bought a Kobalt set a few years ago and I’m happy with it. I wonder if another company makes them for kobalt? Sold my 15 year old craftsman drill/light set with bad batteries for $10 to a guy who has adapters for his set. The new ones charge so much faster, last longer, and have an indicator for how much charge is left.
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Re: Seems like cordless batteies always dead when needed.

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I bought a Kobalt set a few years ago and Iím happy with it. I wonder if another company makes them for kobalt? Sold my 15 year old craftsman drill/light set with bad batteries for $10 to a guy who has adapters for his set. The new ones charge so much faster, last longer, and have an indicator for how much charge is left.
$10 is about right. $5 a piece seems to be the going rate for old NiCad drills and maybe $10 for sawzalls , impacts, etc. I bought 6 B&D 18v tools for $30 in the last big purchase I did. Even at $5 apiece there are no buyers.
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Re: Seems like cordless batteies always dead when needed.

I have found that the Dewalt 20 to 18 adapter will drain the battery, I just keep the battery out and it is fine.

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