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post #1 of 39 Old 06-24-2019, 12:08 PM Thread Starter
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Unrelated articles posted "in our Stickies"......??

Please check the Ford/post 1990 New Holland GT forum.

Completely unrelated articles are being posted in our stickies by someone.

Can only assume an attempt to get more "clicks". Need some house cleaning, Thanks.


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Re: Unrelated articles posted "in our Stickies"......??

No feedback on this topic at all?

So what's this unrelated "stuff" in our forum stickies all about?

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Re: Unrelated articles posted "in our Stickies"......??

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No feedback on this topic at all?

So what's this unrelated "stuff" in our forum stickies all about?
Hey Larry!

People are working on it.
See here: https://www.mytractorforum.com/889-s...eeing-ads.html
Taking awhile, but the tech guys are on it.

Maybe we need to call in "Men in Black Homer" to get the job done.

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post #4 of 39 Old 06-24-2019, 11:30 PM Thread Starter
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Re: Unrelated articles posted "in our Stickies"......??

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Hey Larry!

People are working on it.
See here: https://www.mytractorforum.com/889-s...eeing-ads.html
Taking awhile, but the tech guys are on it.

Maybe we need to call in "Men in Black Homer" to get the job done.
Thanks JP, I never really thought of them as ads, they just seemed to be articles completely unrelated to tractors. Probably from another one of VS's forums.

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Thanks JP, I never really thought of them as ads, they just seemed to be articles completely unrelated to tractors. Probably from another one of VS's forums.
Nope! The other VS forums are getting the same thing.

As JP stated, they're working on it, but I get the impression that it's not going to be quick or easy to correct.

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Re: Unrelated articles posted "in our Stickies"......??

Trouble is too, we have no way to remove them manually. These spammers don't show up as members, so we can't ban them. Hopefully, this will be resolved soon.

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Trouble is too, we have no way to remove them manually. These spammers don't show up as members, so we can't ban them. Hopefully, this will be resolved soon.
Hmm....... so "deleted by moderator" won't work, or "thread moved to..." heh heh "trash", don't work?

Maybe we need to stop typing and start a "Mental Telepathy Forum". the new MTF.

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Good luck with your cleansing quest Gents.

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Re: Unrelated articles posted "in our Stickies"......??

I don't think they are posts in the normal sense, like this thread is, but rather, separately added to the lists as a paid advertisement. They are showing up in other VS forums as well.

Since this "feature" makes VS money, likely the best way to get the ball rolling on actually getting this fixed would be to explicitly message them and indicate you are withholding renewing as a MTF site supporter until they do fix it. If enough people do, they might consider prioritizing it...
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Site supporters pay for the privilege of not having to deal with paid ads. If these extraneous posts came from authorized paid up advertisers, they wouldn't be placed where they are.

Suggesting that site supporters hold back on renewing assumes that first, they are a paid up site supporters. Those who aren't have no such leverage. The second assumption is that they see no benefit to paying in the first place. In which case, why would they be a paid up site supporter?

In the third place, threads that are so obviously not part of the normal operations can easily be avoided by simply not clicking on them. That's hardly worth suggesting that renewals be withheld until the situation is rectified.

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Site supporters pay for the privilege of not having to deal with paid ads. If these extraneous posts came from authorized paid up advertisers, they wouldn't be placed where they are.
Except they are there, and explicitly put there by the forum software, and they are ads.

If they just regular spam posts, moderators would delete them, and there would be no problem.

Since they aren't regular posts, then the only two remaining options are:
1. Someone has hacked the site to insert unauthorized content into it.
2. These are paid-for ads, that are supposed to be displayed to at least some users.

If it were 1, then I am 100% certain the response would be entirely different, most likely with the site going offline until the site owners regained control of all the content.
But the response has been "we're working on it", which is what would be expected if it were 2, and they are just trying to figure out how to not display these ads to MTF supporters.

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Suggesting that site supporters hold back on renewing assumes that first, they are a paid up site supporters. Those who aren't have no such leverage. The second assumption is that they see no benefit to paying in the first place. In which case, why would they be a paid up site supporter?
The original poster is an MTF supporter (as per the badge just below the posters name). I have no reason to doubt it, and I don't know why you are. And that is exactly the point, that MTF isn't living up to their side of the paid-for contract, in that they are being shown ads, when part of the contract with MTF is that they wouldn't be shown ads. I simply suggested that since MTF isn't living up to the contract, that the poster stop being a paid up site supporter.

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In the third place, threads that are so obviously not part of the normal operations can easily be avoided by simply not clicking on them. That's hardly worth suggesting that renewals be withheld until the situation is rectified.
Yes, the poster could do this, but they aren't supposed to have to.

1) they are explicitly giving the site money to not see ads, and it is part of the contract they have with the site, which the site is not living up to
2) the site is making more money by displaying these ads to people who paid not to see them
3) it costs the site money to fix the problem

The combination of all 3 of these things puts the priority for fixing the problem WAY WAY down, as it costs the site money to fix the problem, and the fix results in the site making less money overall.

I suggested the OP withold renewal until the problem is fixed, as that would be a way to signal the site to increase the priority for fixing the problem, as then the site would likely lose more money via 1, than they gain from 2.

As the weeks go by with nothing more than a vague "we're working on it", IMHO it certainly would be reasonable for an MTF Supporter to consider at least not renewing until the problem is fixed.

Edit: This is largely related to the main thread on this subject (https://www.mytractorforum.com/889-s...eeing-ads.html, which indicates the problem has been happening for more than a month. And these kind of "ads appearing as regular posts" are spreading to other VS forums as well.

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Please check the Ford/post 1990 New Holland GT forum.

Completely unrelated articles are being posted in our stickies by someone.
I don't see anything there.
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Except they are there, and explicitly put there by the forum software, and they are ads.
They are a pot hole in the road called MTF, and a marked pot hole at that. You have the choice to click or not click on the "ads", just as you have the choice to hit or miss the pot hole.

A pot hole takes a few shovels full of gravel and a bit of hot mix to fix. A glitch in one of several thousand lines of programming takes just a wee bit longer.

You would have the road closed and residents along the road holding back their taxes until the pothole was fixed. Most people wouldn't.

Have a little patience. The problem will be solved over time.

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No, it's more like two parallel highway roads, one is the free one, but it has a bunch of potholes, and the other is a toll road that the operator has promised has no potholes, but people who have paid the toll have found a bunch of potholes on that road, and reported them, and the potholes aren't getting fixed. And the toll road operator is telling them, you might not have paid to be on that road anyway, sure there are some, just ignore them, eventually they will get fixed. I'm suggesting they consider switching back to the free road until the toll road operator actually bothers to fix the potholes.
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Please check the Ford/post 1990 New Holland GT forum.

Completely unrelated articles are being posted in our stickies by someone.

Can only assume an attempt to get more "clicks". Need some house cleaning, Thanks.


Larry, I too ,see them unrelated threads in the Ford/post 1990 New Holland GT forum.

They are threads number 2 and 3.

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