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post #1 of 16 Old 03-10-2019, 03:38 AM Thread Starter
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New GC1705 Starting Rough?

I just got a new GC1705 and it seems to be starting a little rough. It's my first tractor so I'm not sure what is normal. Does this seem about right for these tractors?

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I watched the video and that is about the way mine starts I wouldn't worry about it at all.

I have a GC also and honestly this is a little bit the nature of that tractor. Depending on the temperature you just might have to glow a little bit longer. I don't go no more than 10 seconds on each glow Max 3x for 30 seconds. It has never taken more than that.

I start mine just with the throttle just a little off of idle. After it starts I let it run about 30 seconds then bump it up to about 1/4 throttle and let it warm up. Read your manual for the warm up time based on how cold it is.

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BTW, congrats on the new tractor you will love it.

And this probably goes without saying but I still need to say because you're warming up a diesel, and it takes a while, make sure there's good ventilation wherever you warm it up or it's outside.

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Re: New GC1705 Starting Rough?

I'd give the throttle a small nudge up when starting, it should help it smooth out faster. Once the engine is warm, it will run smooth at idle, but I feel like it needs just a bit more when cold.

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Re: New GC1705 Starting Rough?

Yeah longer glow plug cycle should smooth it out. Mine was the exact same way.
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Yeah longer glow plug cycle should smooth it out. Mine was the exact same way.
Steddy, not to hijack this thread but what are you snow blowing with in that Avatar is that a gravely? Seems to be doing a great job.

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John, that is normal. Are your glows plugs operated manually by the switch, or are they on a timer? You can hold the key in heat position longer if manual. If timed, after they cycle just turn back to the off position, and then start over.

When it gets below 5* around here, I have to cycle the glow plugs numerous (3-5 xs) on our Bobcat skidsteers, and my Mitsubishi 2 cylinder needs to be plugged in and have a minute of glow plug action to even think about starting. If it does start, it looks and sounds like Elvis on meth for the first 10 seconds.

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Re: New GC1705 Starting Rough?

Thanks for all the responses. I think the tractor was warm when I started it up at the dealership so it was quite a bit smoother.

I did try to start it at half throttle like the manual recommends. It did start a lot smoother that way but it seems weird to start at such a high throttle position.
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John, that is normal. Are your glows plugs operated manually by the switch, or are they on a timer? You can hold the key in heat position longer if manual....
They are manual on the GCs.
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To a small extent, mine would even display that condition on a 75 degree summer day. Pretty much no matter what the temperature, I'd always run the glow plugs. The only time it didn't act like that was on a non-cold startup.


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Re: New GC1705 Starting Rough?

3 Bangers will rattle yer teefs sometimes. Guess you could sit your coffee cup on the hood if it needs stirrin'. Maybe a Hula Girl Bobble? Make you think tropical?

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Question on the Glow Plugs though ... can you over do them and burn/damage them?
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To a small extent, mine would even display that condition on a 75 degree summer day. Pretty much no matter what the temperature, I'd always run the glow plugs. The only time it didn't act like that was on a non-cold startup.
Yep, what he said.

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3 Bangers will rattle yer teefs sometimes. Guess you could sit your coffee cup on the hood if it needs stirrin'. Maybe a Hula Girl Bobble? Make you think tropical?

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Question on the Glow Plugs though ... can you over do them and burn/damage them?
I have heard that you can and it makes sense that you could they're just coils I think.

I don't know what the time is that would do that and maybe somebody here does

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Question on the Glow Plugs though ... can you over do them and burn/damage them?
Probably. I run mine for 30 seconds and then twist her tail for about 10 seconds. If she doesn't do more than kick, I'll do it all again. If it doesn't light up after 3 attempts, I plug in the block heater and go inside for an hour or two.

That's for temps down to about zero or -5. For colder, plug it in first and come back later to light it after one 30 second glow.

Mine is a 2006 GC2310 with almost 1000 hours that lives outside and does mostly winter work so it has lots and lots of cold weather starting. The original glow plugs seem to be still working.

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