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post #16 of 24 Old 11-19-2018, 03:03 PM Thread Starter
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I have the Massey block heater in my GC1720, little pricey, but works great. I plugged it into a wireless switch that I can control from eh warmth of the house. I'm considering adding a small silicone pad heater to the transmission housing. I can warm the engine, but the hydraulic fluid is still cold. I'd like to be able to hope on and go in the winter!
I assume you had your heater installed by the dealer? If you installed it yourself, how in the world did you get it to not leak? I can't get mine to stop leaking so I'm about ready to yank it out and put a new frost plug in. It doesn't leak a lot and only when I either start using it or after it cools down. Maybe that's normal, I just don't know. I'm tired of it and I think I'm going to cut my losses, install a new frost plug and go back to the magnetic heater that I used on my old 1705.

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I assume you had your heater installed by the dealer? If you installed it yourself, how in the world did you get it to not leak? I can't get mine to stop leaking so I'm about ready to yank it out and put a new frost plug in. It doesn't leak a lot and only when I either start using it or after it cools down. Maybe that's normal, I just don't know. I'm tired of it and I think I'm going to cut my losses, install a new frost plug and go back to the magnetic heater that I used on my old 1705.
Sorry, mine was dealer installed. I don't know what install methods they used, but it does not leak at all.

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I installed my block heater last year, I watched this video then did the install.
I think my muffler bracket was a little different, but I have not had any leaks.
My heater was the same one as in the video, I think the older model heaters had a flat bracket and have a different part number.
I used lithium grease for the install like the video.
I also installed a stick on silicone pan heater for the Hydraulic Fluid.

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I installed my block heater last year, I watched this video then did the install.
I think my muffler bracket was a little different, but I have not had any leaks.
My heater was the same one as in the video, I think the older model heaters had a flat bracket and have a different part number.
I used lithium grease for the install like the video.
I also installed a stick on silicone pan heater for the Hydraulic Fluid.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_pulz2KlZw
Did you use any sealant at all? I have the same heater, made for the Massey. I'm thinking that I must have damaged the oring somehow. I know these things can leak but this one has been ridiculous. I watched the same video before I put mine it. Simple, right? I used the lithium grease as well. I may pop it out one more time, go over to NAPA and get an oring or three and see if I can't get this right.

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I did not use any sealant.
Check for scratches or burrs in the knockout plug hole.
Check the O-ring out with a magnifying glass.
If Napa doesn't have a high temp o-ring that size, check out Mcmaster Carr.
Maybe try an o-ring a little thicker or a larger OD

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Well, as a follow up to all this mess, I did end up sticking with this heater and I'm sure glad I did. I ordered some new o'rings for it (a couple, just in case) along with the new freeze plug (again, just in case). I also found out the correct sealant to use so I was prepared to go to war. Once I removed the heater, I saw the problem. The o'ring was pinched and deformed in the hole and couldn't seal. It always did fit rather loose. The new o'rings fit much better and once I slid it into the hole, I knew it would work. It was a completely different fit. It just felt right. No leaks now and I gotta say, I love the heater. I plug it in for 30 minutes prior to using the tractor and the thing starts like it's summer. This also resulted in the operating temperature going back up to where it should be. In this case, a little patience went a long way. I'm in PA and bought the tractor in PA but I want to give a big shout out to Jason at Roudebush Equipment in Westfield, IN. I bought the heater from him. He worked with me (put up with me) and helped me get this right along with setting me up with the right sealer and parts for success. Now I'm ready for the snow we're supposed to get this coming weekend. Thanks for everyone's input and I hope this helps someone else.

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Re: Block heater (what are you using?)

Just so the rest of us know, what was the "correct" sealer that worked for you?

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Just so the rest of us know, what was the "correct" sealer that worked for you?
Yeah, I guess that would help. It was so simple, I feel stupid. I tried other sealants and this is the one that worked and the one that the dealership uses. Permatex water pump & thermostat housing gasket maker.
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Re: Block heater (what are you using?)

Glad to hear you got it sorted out.

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