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Good value/quality Rear Snowblower for SCUT?

I am in the market for a SCUT. Probably going to configure it with loader and MMM deck from whoever I go with. Looking at usual suspects massey 1700, kubota BX23, kioti CS22, and deere 1023. I'm new to this and now realize rear mount PTO snowblowers in these sizes are all pretty much universal. Who makes a good quality/good value rear mount PTO snowblower? The kubota dealer said there are a ton of companies making aftermarket components like this. Educate me please! Hoping to go with 54" and we're in northern New England so we can exceed 20" snow storms on occasion. Thanks in advance!
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Re: Good value/quality Rear Snowblower for SCUT?

Here are two possibilities.

https://pronovost.qc.ca/en/snowblowers/pronovost

https://lucknowproducts.com/products/snow-blowers

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Re: Good value/quality Rear Snowblower for SCUT?

I've had mixed thoughts on the MK Martin Meteor. It seems to push a lot of snow so there's a big pile at the end of the row where I stop. Other than that, which happens mostly in the wet heavy snow, it's been great especially for the $1000 I paid for it, completely refurbished including powder coat. This is an older generation. My understanding is the newer models have the snow pushing effect worked out a bit better.
This a 60" model. It's pretty doggone solid.
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Re: Good value/quality Rear Snowblower for SCUT?

Is that a gc1700 series? I am considering a similar combo. How does it do with the 60" keeping up in deep stuff? Does the engine bog down at all?
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GC 2300, precursor to the 1700 series.

If you travel too fast, any engine will bog. With these tractor/blowers, you measure how many horsepower per foot of blower width. For dedicated commercial blowers, it's how many horsepower per inch of blower width, usually 1-20, depending on purpose. Airport runways in snow country need a little more oomph than, say, shopping center parking lots in Kentucky.

This one is a 2006 GC2310 set up for winter operations. It's the same basic tractor, only it comes with a back hoe as standard equipment.


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Is that a gc1700 series? I am considering a similar combo. How does it do with the 60" keeping up in deep stuff? Does the engine bog down at all?
I find the 60" is the perfect width (2007 GC2300, only about 18 horsepower at the PTO). If the snow gets real deep, I just can't go full speed (pedal to the floor in low range), but that rarely happens. If I wanted to, I can go faster in high range, but I'm normally just not in that big of a hurry. The only time I can't go full speed is when I'm, say, doing a path in the yard around the house for the first time in a long time. The snow isn't that deep (maybe 16" or so), but it's been compacted by gravity over several weeks. It's 48" worth of snow basically. The tractor will either bog down if I go too fast, so I simply slow down, or it won't physically push the blower... It just spins all 4 tires. Solution then is just raise the blower, and/or take slightly smaller "bites." This happened one time when I was at my neighbor's house, just playing around moving back a snowbank from almost all winter's worth of blowing. It did it, but it was difficult (tractor just spun the tires most of the time). if the snow ever gets to the point where the blower won't handle it, I can just turn around and use the loader to deal with it. BTW I'm running empty 10 year old turf tires with no chains or any added weight on the tractor besides the blower and loader.

Most of the snowfalls we get here are 12" or less in the three years I've had this blower. Therefore, I'm able to use the full width pretty much all the time with no sacrifice in speed. With the blower's extra width and the tractor's speed, I can do my driveway in maybe 7 minutes in a 10" snowfall. It literally takes me longer to warm up the tractor and get dressed and clean the tractor off when I' done than it takes to do the actual job. With the 48" blower on my Wheel Horse, the best I could ever muster was about 9 minutes, and that was probably 3-4". With a 48" snowplow on a whelhorse that moves about 3/4 the speed of my SCUT, it took about 15-20 minutes to plow, and I had good sized snowbanks all over when I was done. The blower solves the snowbank problem, but I have the advantage of lots of room to throw the snow. If I didn't have much room, as in years past at different houses, I'd just have to direct the snow with the chute more carefully. Plowing was not a viable option.

Being as how the blower is about a foot wider than the tractor, I rarely unintentionally venture outside the path I just cleared. With a blower about the same width as the tractor, I was always knocking snow into my cleared path with the tires when turning even just a little.

As I mentioned, this is an older generation of this model blower. Besides pushing the snow thus leaving a pile at the end of the row, the impeller isn't efficient enough to keep the bucket clear. This leads to snow spilling out of the side if I try to go too fast, even if the tractor can handle it. This is more evident in wet heavy snow. I think the got it figured out with the more recent models, as the impeller is shielded over about 25% of it on new ones.

I have to make sure to be extra careful with this rear mounted bower. With the loader hanging 5' off the end of the tractor that swings around when I steer it, often times when I'm looking the opposite direction at the blower, I have to be extra mindful of where the loader bucket is in relation to an obstacle. Fortunately I've never hit anything but a plastic garbage can.

The only other disadvantage to this larger setup is maneuverability. I can't get with this blower where I could with the smaller blower, like up against the service door to the garage. Gotta shovel about 3 square feet every time it's an exposed aggregate sidewalk, so I don't like using the loader on it.


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Re: Good value/quality Rear Snowblower for SCUT?

@steddy when you say you measure how many horsepower per foot of blower width, what do you mean? Is there some formula or rule of thumb?
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Rule of thumb, 5 hp per foot up to 60". I think 25 hp on a 60" is pushing it, but there is 4 & 1/2' models out there, like steddy's Meteor came in a 54" also.
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Well, there's a lot of 5 horse 24" walk behind blowers out there that do OK, I guess. 5 horse per 2 feet of blower width. Figuring 18 horse at the PTO, that gives about 6.5 feet. Hmmmmmm... That shounds like a bit much too much width. Maybe some day I'll get to try a 72" on this tractor. I'll report back if I do .


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Well, there's a lot of 5 horse 24" walk behind blowers out there that do OK, I guess. 5 horse per 2 feet of blower width. Figuring 18 horse at the PTO, that gives about 6.5 feet. Hmmmmmm... That shounds like a bit much too much width. Maybe some day I'll get to try a 72" on this tractor. I'll report back if I do .
The key word is "walk". Even in high gear, those critters aren't speed demons. Put them in low gear and they still go "oomph" when they hit deep snow.

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The key word is "walk". Even in high gear, those critters aren't speed demons. Put them in low gear and they still go "oomph" when they hit deep snow.
Hmmmmm.... True. Most walk behinds are painfully slow. I guess I'll stick with the wide tractor mounted blower then, and keep moving slow. That way I have the option to go faster if the snow is a bit deeper. Even when going slow, I'm usually going faster than I would with a walk behind.


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Bercomac makes some nice units. Made in Canada. Pretty tough machines. Can get remote chute operation if you want. Main drive is belt, so no maint.

3 point hitch - category 1 Archives - Bercomac

I have a front mounted belt driven unit on my Craftsman. It'll throw the snow father than any other blower out there short of a hydraulic unit.
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Thanks for the replies everyone. Stepping into the subcompact from a lawn/garden is a game changer for us. We decided to roll a 54" Woods rear blower into the the tractor, With the 0% finance it was a no brainer. Gotta focus the out of pocket expenses on some fill and a canopy to park it. (I mean, come on... cant expect the Mrs to leaver her car outside ALL winter while the tractor stays warm and toasty in the garage!)
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Thanks for the replies everyone. Stepping into the subcompact from a lawn/garden is a game changer for us. We decided to roll a 54" Woods rear blower into the the tractor, With the 0% finance it was a no brainer. Gotta focus the out of pocket expenses on some fill and a canopy to park it. (I mean, come on... cant expect the Mrs to leaver her car outside ALL winter while the tractor stays warm and toasty in the garage!)


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