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post #1 of 36 Old 04-27-2019, 01:24 PM Thread Starter
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Hi, I currently have a JD LX178 that I bought new back in 1998 which still runs good, although slow starting. I keep the oil changed and take care of it the best I can. Not a lot wrong with it, but yesterday the tie rod came loose, the ball separated from the socket but I got it back together and while sharpening the blades I did see a dime size hole in the top of the deck. I took it in a year or two ago for a spring tune up, oil change, etc. where they did find some other things that was needed to be done which totaled around $600.00. I have been thinking about a new one and with the sale going on right now I am looking at the S240 or the X330. I keep reading and hearing how people are not happy with the Briggs and Stratton engine or the rear end that JD puts in these models. I only cut 1/2 acre with very very slight hills. I used the 178 for pushing snow also but I am tired of putting the chains and the blade on every year so I am not going to do that with the new one. I have no problem spending a little more to get a better product but do not want to buy more than I need. So I am just wondering what your opinions are on this. Fix the 178, and runner till she quits, or maybe you could help me pick a model that would work best for me. Thanks in advance for any advice.
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I would fix the old one, but I am a tightwad. Both the tie rod and a little hole are both easy fixes. I am sure you could do those yourself. You could also buy a new one for grass and keep that one set up for snow duty, depends how much room you have.
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I would fix the old one, but I am a tightwad. Both the tie rod and a little hole are both easy fixes. I am sure you could do those yourself. You could also buy a new one for grass and keep that one set up for snow duty, depends how much room you have.
I guess it depends on you and if you want something new and have the money.
Thats a great idea if I only had the room. I am sure I can fix it, what holds the ball in the socket anyway? They don't build them like they use too is what I keep reading. Thanks poncho62!
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You got 20 years out of the LX 188, at some point itís wise to stop throwing money into an obsolete machine. the s240 or X330 will do the job for you. JD is running 300 bucks off the 300 series if you buy before end of April. Personally Iíd look into X370 - k57 and power steering- a nice option to have. Plus if size is a factor it comes with 42 inch deck. Or the X380, comes with k58 tranny (similar but a little better than K61 you have in Lx188) Any of the tractors I listed will be nice upgrade from what you are currently using. Talk to dealer about trading in your current Lx188- to lower your cost

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You got 20 years out of the LX 188, at some point itís wise to stop throwing money into an obsolete machine. the s240 or X330 will do the job for you. JD is running 300 bucks off the 300 series if you buy before end of April. Personally Iíd look into X370 - k57 and power steering- a nice option to have. Plus if size is a factor it comes with 42 inch deck. Or the X380, comes with k58 tranny (similar but a little better than K61 you have in Lx188) Any of the tractors I listed will be nice upgrade from what you are currently using. Talk to dealer about trading in your current Lx188- to lower your cost
Thanks for the advice UpstateTony, yes really my LX178 has served me well for the past 21 years and I do understand what you are saying. The wife is telling me the same thing, "what's going to break down on it next?" I got the drag arm off today and will look at getting a new one tomorrow or trade the mower in on a new one. After everything I have been reading about the B&S engines and the K46 tranny I am just a little hesitant. Do you think the X370 or X380 is a little overkill for my size of yard, 1/3rd of an acre?
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Thanks for the advice UpstateTony, yes really my LX178 has served me well for the past 21 years and I do understand what you are saying. The wife is telling me the same thing, "what's going to break down on it next?" I got the drag arm off today and will look at getting a new one tomorrow or trade the mower in on a new one. After everything I have been reading about the B&S engines and the K46 tranny I am just a little hesitant. Do you think the X370 or X380 is a little overkill for my size of yard, 1/3rd of an acre?

No the X370/380 are direct replacements descendants of your Lx188. Personally I think you're a little better off with X370- you'll love the power steering. It's the type option you think you donít need till you drive a tractor with power steering. Then you'll never own a tractor without it. Plus it only has a 42 inch deck. BTW as long as you sign for new X3xx series machine before end of April you get the 300 bucks off. Take plenty of pictures of your lx 188 with you and ask dealer about trade in.

I will also say the s240 or X330 will both do job for you. just 370/380 will do it better more comfortably and last longer

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Thanks, I will go take a look tomorrow!
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Thanks, I will go take a look tomorrow!
While youíre there, try the X570/X580/X590 and look at any slightly used tractors the dealer might have. Check Craigslist for someone looking to get a bigger tractor too. Tractorhouse.com and MachineryPete.com are good places to find a fair price range. Check other dealers on the internet too. I got my Husqvarna GTH27V52LS after finding it at an implement dealer. Price on the internet was $1750, about $250 less than they had it marked on the lot. It didnít take much to get it down some, but got the internet price when I presented a printed copy. Had to fix some things the previous owner broke, but the tractor has been nothing but a pleasure and mows better and faster than almost anything I have mowed with. All mowers do NOT mow the same speed. I found other things I did changed my mind about the size of the tractor I wanted. The weight of the tractor was a big factor. My Scotts (Deere) L17.542 42Ē even pulled my Cyclone Rake for a while, but when full of wet/damp leaves the weight would slide the back of the tractor on a slope. Not a recommended practice if you want to stay safe. The X738 is overkill for my 1/2 acre lot, but snow blowing is so much nicer and the weight of the tractor makes it ride softer and does not slide on a slope with the loaded Cyclone Rake. Did I need a Cyclone Rake? At my age, getting on and off the Scotts so many times in one day made me hurt a lot. I figured spending money to make it hurt less so I could do it longer was a win. By the way, power steering became a must after I bought my X360 that my son-in-law now has. I keep almost everything I buy and use them all at different times.

Drive as many as you can for as long as you can to get the real feel. Even volunteer to mow for someone else just to try their machine. Just my $.02.

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I wouldn't even glance at a S series. They are garbage boxes. I'm not a huge fan of the briggs either. If you go the route of the S series you may as well go to Lowes or Home Depot or local farm store and buy any El Cheapo MTD there and probably be money ahead with essentially the same quality machine.

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Who makes the iTorque engine?
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I wouldn't even glance at a S series. They are garbage boxes. I'm not a huge fan of the briggs either. If you go the route of the S series you may as well go to Lowes or Home Depot or local farm store and buy any El Cheapo MTD there and probably be money ahead with essentially the same quality machine.
Yes, I did read that they were built on the D frames. I am going some where in the 300 series I believe, that price range will work best for me.
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Do you think the X370 or X380 is a little overkill for my size of yard, 1/3rd of an acre?
Yes, unless you're also doing more work than just mowing. While the bigger machines are nice, for just mowing 1/3 acre they really aren't all that practical and you'll be just as well served by a lawn tractor, especially if you don't have any real hills.
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Who makes the iTorque engine?
I did a little more reading and I believe the iTorque is made by Kawasaki. That means I would have to buy the X350. I have the Kawasaki Liquid Cooled engine in my LX178 and haven't had much trouble with it. Water pump still under warranty and a fuel leak I fixed myself.
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Yes, unless you're also doing more work than just mowing. While the bigger machines are nice, for just mowing 1/3 acre they really aren't all that practical and you'll be just as well served by a lawn tractor, especially if you don't have any real hills.


Actually the X370/380 are lawn tractors. Wornslick has had a lx178 for last 21 years- the x370/380 are today's replacements of the LX line Ėso basically any of the X3xx line is replacement for the Lx178 wornslick brought new 21 years ago.

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I've been happy with my X380 for my 1/2 acre yard (although I am passively looking for a bigger machine, but that's another thread, literally) It does what I ask of it, mow the lawn, run a bagger, pull a cart and core aerator, and maybe a Johnny bucket in the future. I could have gone with an E series or an S240, and have been fine, but wanted the larger transmission and engine. I am still a big believer in the phrase "you get what you pay for"

For comparison, my mother has a 2 acre yard, on a hill, she has a 3 year old Husqvarna YT42LS, that will likely not make it 5 years without some transmission work, this was a $1900 machine new.
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