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post #16 of 21 Old 08-26-2019, 11:26 PM
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That video wouldn't convince me to buy a snow edge.

First, the angle of the bucket would wear out a steel edge on asphalt and dig holes in gravel. A back blade with a squeegee edge would be a better tool for the snow in the video.

Second, 2" of slushy snow is not worth the gas to clean up unless the temperature is going to drop to below freezing and more snow is forecast.

Third, the asphalt and ground are frozen in my locality and any marks that the steel edge leaves don't last past the spring rains.

Fourth, a service life of only 30 hours means changing the edge outside in the cold at least three times a season. I don't mind driving my tractor in the winter, but working on it is only for emergencies in cold weather.
Watching the video, the metal edge of the bucket doesn't touch the surface. There's a 2 and 1/2 inch thick rubber substance on the bottom under the front edge of the bucket touching the driveway surface. Nothing metal is touching the surface. So there's no damage to asphalt or concrete surfaces.

Here's a better video of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=o64EgCBKKXA

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Pretty nice.

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Watching the video, the metal edge of the bucket doesn't touch the surface. There's a 2 and 1/2 inch thick rubber substance on the bottom under the front edge of the bucket touching the driveway surface. Nothing metal is touching the surface. So there's no damage to asphalt or concrete surfaces.
So, not only does it have a 30 hour service life before it needs to be replaced, but it has no edge to undercut snow that has been packed.

The steel cutting edge of my GTs bucket required a dressing about every 1200 hours, would undercut hard pack, and has yet to leave a visible mark on an asphalt driveway, even the first winter after it was laid down.

The city's street plows wear out a set of hardened cutting edges every 24 hours of operation, and they don't leave marks on the pavement in spite of the sparks that can be seen when they go by. They have recently changed to a different material for the cutting edges ... carbide ... for more durability.

The lack of residual marks may be because winter temps around here tend to be well below freezing and asphalt becomes very hard when frozen. My concrete rear walkway doesn't get marked either and I used serious downpressure to undercut the hardpack/ice when necessary.

Keep in mind that this is my perspective from here in the Great White North, and from using a GT sized loader for snow removal for 40 years. Your conditions may be completely different and a composite bucket edge may work satisfactorily.

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Look everybody needs to figure out what works for their application. Me, I have blacktop driveway, around 100 ft long, around 2.5 car widths maybe, a side apron, and another smaller side drive.

For the last 3 winters, I've been using a craftman snow blade with a poly strip I sandwiched between the blade and the wear bar. Has the poly strip worn some? Yes, it's got a bevel to it now. Has it been 30 hours with that strip? I dunno, I'm thinking probably not. But, I do know I would have gotten at minimum another 2 winters out of that strip before I had unbolt and flip it over.

Now I don't know what material that ratchet rake's snow edge is made out of, but if I could get 5 winter seasons out of it before having to replace the wear strip for $50 plus shipping, I'm cool with it. If it wears out too fast, I'll just buy a thick poly strip, drill and counterbore some holes, end of story.

As far as the snow blade design itself and how it's utilized with the bucket, I personally think it's great. But again, some prefer a snow blower, some a back blade, some a real plow up front, whatever, do your thing boys.

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So, not only does it have a 30 hour service life before it needs to be replaced, but it has no edge to undercut snow that has been packed.

The steel cutting edge of my GTs bucket required a dressing about every 1200 hours, would undercut hard pack, and has yet to leave a visible mark on an asphalt driveway, even the first winter after it was laid down.

The city's street plows wear out a set of hardened cutting edges every 24 hours of operation, and they don't leave marks on the pavement in spite of the sparks that can be seen when they go by. They have recently changed to a different material for the cutting edges ... carbide ... for more durability.

The lack of residual marks may be because winter temps around here tend to be well below freezing and asphalt becomes very hard when frozen. My concrete rear walkway doesn't get marked either and I used serious downpressure to undercut the hardpack/ice when necessary.

Keep in mind that this is my perspective from here in the Great White North, and from using a GT sized loader for snow removal for 40 years. Your conditions may be completely different and a composite bucket edge may work satisfactorily.
Your winters are much harsher than our winters. In fact, the local government stop using snow plows and are spraying the roads with brine.

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