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Freeze protection - no heated storage

Not having a garage or other sturdy insulated structure to store my gas PW, it is being kept in a RoundTop fabric shelter which affords little protection from overnight freezing. I tried to get as much water out as I could with my air compressor while I turned over the engine with the pull cord. I then poured a little windshield washer fluid into it and proceeded to blow it through as well. Hopefully it survived its first Winter.

Anyway, I'd like to get an early start on Spring cleaning but worry about freezing overnight temps. I was thinking of making an insulated tarp for it. Maybe just a large tarp folded several times would trap enough air between the layers. Maybe an old bed quilt folded in with it.

I worry about making an attractive home for vermin. I had leftover EPDM roofing that I use for tarps and some stupid rodent chewed holes in it. If not the mice then the ants move in... Built a nice doghouse and the ants moved in. I'm forever fighting to evict wasps, hornets, bees, skunks, snakes...

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RV antifreeze added to the pump will keep it safe.
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I built a tube about 16 inches long 1 1/2 dia with pvc pipe and garden hose fitting pour in some rv antifreeze start motor circulate and shutdown well protected for season
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I think I have the off-season storage prep part figured out. It's just the in-season overnight frosts I worry about.

The off-season prep also involves siphoning out the detergent from the tank and blowing out the lines. Not something I want to have to do in-season when there is a heavy frost. I'd rather just put an insulated cover over it.

Maybe I'll just toss a heavy blanket over the PW and then place a patio chair cover over that.
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Old thread but I thought I'd chime in since we're getting toward cool nights again.

After use, I just start the engine and run for about 5 seconds with no hoses connected. It pumps out enough water that freezing isn't a concern. Same for in season or off season storage.
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There is a bottle sold with anti-freeze solution that you screw into pump inlet, squeeze the bottle a couple times til the anti-freeze comes out discharge side. Probably same as RV stuff, but a little more convenient.
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Old thread but I thought I'd chime in since we're getting toward cool nights again.

After use, I just start the engine and run for about 5 seconds with no hoses connected. It pumps out enough water that freezing isn't a concern. Same for in season or off season storage.
No problem dredging up this thread as you said, it is getting to be that time of year when overnight frosts are a concern but yet too soon to winterize. I just got off of a 9 day run of 12 hour days working a mill shutdown and forgot all about my PW sitting in my woodshed. We had one night of -4C and hope it did no damage.

I'm not confident that simply running it for a few seconds without hoses connected would do it. I also want the hoses to be blown out so I will use my compressor to blow out all my hoses and wands as well.

I still have not come up with a rodent resistant insulated cover.

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No problem dredging up this thread as you said, it is getting to be that time of year when overnight frosts are a concern but yet too soon to winterize. I just got off of a 9 day run of 12 hour days working a mill shutdown and forgot all about my PW sitting in my woodshed. We had one night of -4C and hope it did no damage.

I'm not confident that simply running it for a few seconds without hoses connected would do it. I also want the hoses to be blown out so I will use my compressor to blow out all my hoses and wands as well.

I still have not come up with a rodent resistant insulated cover.
The dry run has worked for me since I have owned the PW (roughly 8 years), however our latitudes do differ a bit. I'm sure marine AF or pump saver would be cheap insurance for you. Agreed on the blowing out hoses for winter. I also rub a little Super Lube on the steel connectors.
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For the first 5 yrs, we sucked the gas out of the tank with an old turkey baster, dragged it into the house then hauled it down the basement stairs.

During the "iffy" fall season, after each use, I'd always detatch the hose, roll the engine over a half dozen times with the pull cord, till no more water came out and hold the hose high above my head, with the trigger open, to drain the water out.

Then one winter we forgot it outside in the shed. Figured if it still worked, fine, if not, we'll get a new one.

Worked perfect the next spring and it has spent the last 15 winters out in the shed, "using this procedure" with no problem, ever since. Touch wood.......

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I also rub a little Super Lube on the steel connectors.
Decided that I won't be using the PW any more this year so did the full Winterize routine.

This Spring I found that the steel threaded M22 fitting had some corrosion on it and there was one bad O-ring. I wanted to coat the fitting with oil but worried about the oil attacking the O-ring so I used power steering fluid.

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Look up super lube grease. It is great for all types of o-rings, mechanisms, guns, drawer slides, you name it. I found it when I was into beer brewing - for use on the keg o-rings and connections, as it is FDA H-1 (food grade). It is avaliable on amazon. You can actually request a free sample

From the mfr:

"Super LubeŽ Grease is a patented synthetic NLGI grade 2 heavy-duty, multipurpose lubricant with PTFE. Synthetic base fluids and the addition of PTFE micro powders combine to form a premium lubricant that provides longer life protection against friction, wear, rust and corrosion. Machinery lasts longer, downtime is reduced, and productivity is increased. Super LubeŽ is compatible with most other lubricants and will not run, drip, evaporate or form gummy deposits, and will not melt or separate."
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