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Bomb Cyclone? Bombogenesis? What the heck?!?!?

I heard we were in for some weather, as in bad, later today and through the night, so I was checking around the interweb for updates and found these terms describing what could occur in the Northeast part of the Country. Don't recall seeing these terms before. Anyhow, it would seem if the process of bombogenesis occurs, then you have a bomb cyclone. Which means, generally, pressure must drop 24 millibars (a unit of pressure) within 24 hours, plus other factors I guess.

In my terms we're going to get some strong winds to 60mph, rain up to and over 3 inches and widespread flooding. With that soak and high winds might be some trees uprooting also. This one might sneak up on some folks. If you're in the path, please be safe.

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The terms have previously been used among meteorologists. As with any technical field, there is scientific jargon associated.

Now that weather is an advertising monster the network writers are releasing this terminology to the public to drum up views. Like winter storm names? Yeah NOAA does not recognize those and actually prefers others do not use them. It makes every winter storm seem like a hurricane thus fueling the "weather as news" cycle.
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Re: Bomb Cyclone? Bombogenesis? What the heck?!?!?

I can see that, I mean those terms sound pretty ominous, right? Click bait a go-go. I saw bomb cyclone, and visions of my toilet exploding under me filled my head.

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I'm gonna bring in an armful of stove wood JIC I read the OP and checked my weather and we're in for another blow. Thanks for the heads up.
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Ellis and others,
Stay safe. We are just supposed to get rain & some wind further inland here. We can use it. Ground is dry as a bone.

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I'd never heard of a "Polar Vortex" until a couple/few years ago.
You think they didn't exist before?
Buzz words to keep you distracted from the poor quality of their forecast.
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The terms have previously been used among meteorologists. As with any technical field, there is scientific jargon associated.

Now that weather is an advertising monster the network writers are releasing this terminology to the public to drum up views. Like winter storm names? Yeah NOAA does not recognize those and actually prefers others do not use them. It makes every winter storm seem like a hurricane thus fueling the "weather as news" cycle.
Actually, you are very right! ONLY the Weather Channel names winter storms in an effort to boost clicks and ratings and no other websites follow their lead unless they are part of the corporate ownership. IBM has been the longtime owner of the Weather Channel, but was sold last year to Entertainment Studios.

Technical jargon is very different than layman's terms and is often used by those reporters that have zero science background to give the impression that they are knowledgeable on whatever subject.
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Actually, you are very right! ONLY the Weather Channel names winter storms in an effort to boost clicks and ratings and no other websites follow their lead unless they are part of the corporate ownership. IBM has been the longtime owner of the Weather Channel, but was sold last year to Entertainment Studios.

Technical jargon is very different than layman's terms and is often used by those reporters that have zero science background to give the impression that they are knowledgeable on whatever subject.
One of our local stations has a weatherman who was on the Weather Channel. He did the local weather here for a few years, was hired by the WC, spent three years there and then returned here. Before he was funny and somewhat self deprecating. Now he just likes to try and impress the local audience with meteorological terms that we don’t usually hear. I rarely watch him as I’d rather hear the weather report in layman’s terms.
I have a hard time watching the Weather Channel and Jim Cantore. Just a bit too “over the top” for me.

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The good thing about this storm is that it is moving very quickly and won't stick around for days (see Blizzard of '78, Feb.6-7). We are still expecting 2-4" in 12-18 hours as it passes directly over New York and New England.


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The good thing about this storm is that it is moving very quickly and won't stick around for days (see Blizzard of '78, Feb.6-7). We are still expecting 2-4" in 12-18 hours as it passes directly over New York and New England.
We’re expecting about 2” of rain and 50-60 mph winds along the SW Maine coast. But to echo the overall theme of the thread, the stations and forecasters are doing their part in over sensationalizing the storm.

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One of our local stations has a weatherman who was on the Weather Channel. He did the local weather here for a few years, was hired by the WC, spent three years there and then returned here. Before he was funny and somewhat self deprecating. Now he just likes to try and impress the local audience with meteorological terms that we don’t usually hear. I rarely watch him as I’d rather hear the weather report in layman’s terms.
I have a hard time watching the Weather Channel and Jim Cantore. Just a bit too “over the top” for me.
When I was at college in Biddeford back in the 70's we would always watch the weather from Poland Springs channel 8 with weatherman Marty Angstrom reporting from the summit of Mount Washington.The meteorologists would get snow bound up there for days at a time and based on Marty I think they went a little nuts.


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Um, your "Blizzard of '78, Feb.6-7" was a nor'easter, which this fall storm isn't.
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When I was at college in Biddeford back in the 70's we would always watch the weather from Poland Springs channel 8 with weatherman Marty Angstrom reporting from the summit of Mount Washington.The meteorologists would get snow bound up there for days at a time and based on Marty I think they went a little nuts.
Gotta love Marty!
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We had the Bomb Cyclone last night. It was beautiful starry sky, then thunder and lightning and pounding rain for about 3-4 hours. No damage, no trees up-routed. I think it was just beginning to ramp up, you know up in Canada we make the bad weather, lol.

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The terms have previously been used among meteorologists. As with any technical field, there is scientific jargon associated.

Now that weather is an advertising monster the network writers are releasing this terminology to the public to drum up views. Like winter storm names? Yeah NOAA does not recognize those and actually prefers others do not use them. It makes every winter storm seem like a hurricane thus fueling the "weather as news" cycle.
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