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post #1 of 15 Old 06-09-2019, 07:45 PM Thread Starter
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FEL one man lift fabrication?

In a few weeks I need to install a large fan in a cupola.

My tractor FEL works great me getting in bucket cutting high limbs or putting an extension ladder in it.

I raise it where I want, easy to climb up and in. This cupola project is 15 ft. up. Floor is concrete (level). With backhoe on that gives lots of rear weight plus I can use stabilizers.

Has anyone fabricated a working lift for bucket? I could simply strap a 4x8 sheet of plywood to it. Any ideas appreciated.

I'll have quite a bit of measuring, cutting, bolting things, wiring to do, so I'll have to climb up and down a lot.

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Make sure you get video to make the post accident investigation easier.....
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Re: FEL one man lift fabrication?

For high lift work, I built a T-bar setup to replace the bucket on my loader It gives me a 4' high platform 4' off the ground when the loader arms are fully down. When I add a 12' section of the 3' walkway deck from my old pool and raise it to max height, I have a scaffold at 9.5' above ground. I stabilize it with 2x4 legs clamped near the ends of the deck section.

I didn't use it often, but it has done a lot of work for me lifting things like a roll of carpet to the second floor of my house, construction materials for the house roof to the top of the carport roof that is only a couple of feet below the house roof, the beam that supports the carport roof into place, and all of the drywall for the inside of the house through the living room window that is 6' above grade, as well as using it for a working platform for starting the roof shingling.

I also used it to move a fully constructed 12x16 cedar pool deck from my yard to the next door neighbour's yard when we sold him the old pool. It had to pass through the 11' wide space between our back deck and the 42" fence at the edge of the driveway. No problem. Just had to lift it high enough to clear the fence with the support legs hanging 4' below the deck. With the bottom of the deck already 4' above grade on the T-bar, that meant only lifting it 42".

Note that most of the work was done as a solo performance. For the drywall, I handled the outside work getting it off the trailer and transporting it to the window and my nephew did the inside work unloading and stacking it on the floor. No stairs were climbed in moving 5700 lb of drywall into a high rise house.

Sorry, no pics. This was all done well before I joined MTF in 2009, and the computer that had a few crashed in '03.

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Re: FEL one man lift fabrication?

A pic that I do have is one of the trenching bucket that I made that uses a similar frame to connect to the loader.



It just needs 4' long 2x2 structural posts at the ends where the loader arms fit, and a suitable square structure on top of the posts to clamp or tie a load to and with gussets or diagonal braces to the posts. The platform structure on mine is approximately a 3' square made with 2x2 angle and includes a cross bar in the center at the tops of the posts.

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I may look into this, Titan has for $283. I have pallet forks for bucket. If it's strapped securely to bucket it should be safe?

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Re: FEL one man lift fabrication?

It's not safe, as tractor hydraulic systems aren't designed to fail in a safe manner. It's why nobody manufacturers a platform like that for mounting to a tractor.
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Now I'm considering buying scaffolding. $143 At Wal-Mart site, it can be added on for higher. I have to install lights also. When not in use good for shelves.

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It's not safe, as tractor hydraulic systems aren't designed to fail in a safe manner. It's why nobody manufacturers a platform like that for mounting to a tractor.
Man lifts also use hydraulics to lift workers to higher elevations, but they incorporate additional valving to prevent loss of fluid to the lift cylinder in the event of hose failure.

At least one of these is required on each cylinder that may create a safety hazard for the worker in the event of hose failure.

https://www.surpluscenter.com/Hydrau...-9-8408-38.axd

Note that a loss of fluid in either end of the curl cylinders of a loader can also cause a safety issue with the work platform pictured in the previous post.

Also, mechanical means may be used to make the work platform secure. One method is described in my previous post. Another is to apply a block of some description to one or both lift cylinders. One such block consists of 2 pieces of angle cut to fit between the head end of the cylinder and the rod pin and securely joined together as a wrap around the rod. This will work on cylinders that retract under load. It will not work for cylinders that can extend under a load, like the curl cylinders.

Alternatively, commercial scaffolding can be rented for a reasonable cost and has the advantage of a larger footprint for better stability than the consumer unit previously suggested. Check it out. It is surprisingly inexpensive.

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Re: FEL one man lift fabrication?

Best to use a scaffold, especially if working by yourself. Hydraulics can drift and settle. I've seen tractors with buckets used to "anchor" a ladder. Heck, I once used my pickup truck to keep my ladder from sliding when I had no one to anchor the bottom. To many variables with a raised loader bucket to be safe.
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Re: FEL one man lift fabrication?

This came to mind almost immediately


15 reasons why men die before women (15 photos)

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"Dude, I got an idea. Why don't you just take your tractor and lift me up in this here scaffolding? We'll be able to see the whole Nascar race and we won't even have to buy a ticket!"
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Now I'm considering buying scaffolding. $143 At Wal-Mart site, it can be added on for higher. I have to install lights also. When not in use good for shelves.

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I have been working off these (better ones) for 18 years. If you go 2 sections high you need out riggers to prevent tipping. Yes I have taken the OSHA 10hr course and will be doing the 30hr soon.

That one does not have a locking system for the rack pins. While they rarely fail, but you do not want to be 6 ft in the air and have it let go believe me. I saw a sub contractor have it happen a 40"s and he dislocated his ankle. Not pretty to see his foot at a 90* angle to his leg.

That as we call them, "Bakers scaffold" is cheap but will work fine for a "Harry home owner". Yes it will go as high as 6ft and you can add a second section to get to 12ft. I will tell you though at 12ft on one of those brands is scary.

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Re: FEL one man lift fabrication?

You have a United Rentals near you. You can rent a scissors lift for as cheap as $500 a month. That's a whole lot safer.

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My tractor FEL works great me getting in bucket cutting high limbs or putting an extension ladder in it...
By one man lift, do you mean one man working alone? Always have a buddy when doing something risky.

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Rent one of these:

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I ordered two sets of scaffolding, they can be stacked or used as rolling shelves when not in use. I'm sure I can add braces to make it more stable and strap it to posts or rafters for extra stability.
It should be fine for my purposes. $309 w/tax, free shipping.

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