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post #1 of 65 Old 06-03-2015, 02:32 PM Thread Starter
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The Gravely Timeline Thread

I've heard the occasional rumble about creating a Gravely timeline, but if there is one I don't know about it. So assuming that there is none, how about we create one right here in this thread? If someone has something to add they can just post and add it, and maybe we will end up with something we can output in timeline form.

How it would work is if you had something to add, you just copy/paste the list from the previous post and modify it with your addition. For now we'd be just making a list, just try to insert your addition into the part of the list it should go chronologically. We can clean it up as we go. Info doesn't need to be added in order, if you know something, add it in! Just make sure to keep the list in a separate block form your comments. Let's just dive in and we can discuss particulars as we go.

Let's do this! I'll start with what very little I know:

"1922: The Gravely company was incorporated"

Gravelys: 1951 L, 1952 L, 1954 L, 1956 LI, 1961 LI-SR, 1962 L, 1962 LI, 1963 LI, 1965 L8, 1965 LS, C 10, 524, 5460, 8102.

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1922: The Gravely company was incorporated
1923: First production D Model built.
1924: Oldest known to exist D Model built.
1925: Wheel Design change on D Model.
1926:
1927: D Model switches from water cooled to air cooled.
1928: D Model engine design changes

Current L/C count = 38.
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Re: The Gravely Timeline Thread

I put together a list of design changes on the two wheeler. You could add that to the timeline. Early model L changes are pointless. BFG would walk the assembly floor and make ad hoc changes almost daily. It was so bad that after a while the President of the company forbade him from walking the floor. The fellows assembling tractors would see him coming and alert the front office. Then someone would usher him out.

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   24G (Onan 24hp)    24GLX - was 16G  (Onan 24hp)   8249 - was 8129 (Onan 24hp)
        818T (Onan 18hp B48)       8163T - was 8123 (Onan CCKA) 
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   5665 w/brakes        5665        5660        Pro-8         Pro-16 w/brakes

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I put together a list of design changes on the two wheeler. You could add that to the timeline. Early model L changes are pointless. BFG would walk the assembly floor and make ad hoc changes almost daily. It was so bad that after a while the President of the company forbade him from walking the floor. The fellows assembling tractors would see him coming and alert the front office. Then someone would usher him out.

Is this how he lost the company?
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Re: The Gravely Timeline Thread

Nah. He didn't lose it. As far as I know BFG was out of the picture when Studebaker bought Gravely. Then came Clarke Equipment, etc.

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                              Current Inventory
   24G (Onan 24hp)    24GLX - was 16G  (Onan 24hp)   8249 - was 8129 (Onan 24hp)
        818T (Onan 18hp B48)       8163T - was 8123 (Onan CCKA) 
                              8183T (Onan B48)
   5665 w/brakes        5665        5660        Pro-8         Pro-16 w/brakes

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I think BF Gravely was forced into retirement in the 50's, was it D Ray Hall that took over? I think B F Gravely had passed away by the time studebaker took over. I'm trying to remember some facts that I read in a Gravely Gazette years back.
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1922: The Gravely company was incorporated
1923: First production D Model built.
1924: Oldest known to exist D Model built.
1925: Wheel Design change on D Model.
1926:
1927: D Model switches from water cooled to air cooled.
1928: D Model engine design changes

1960 the Gravely Tractor Company was bought by Studebaker corporation for $12.5 million
BFG gone by then.

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Re: The Gravely Timeline Thread

I really want to see this!

I bugged Fla Don, but he was too busy. We are all too busy and a lot of info will be lost.

Faux Pas are my forte
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I really want to see this!

I bugged Fla Don, but he was too busy. We are all too busy and a lot of info will be lost.
Yeah, yeah, I know. Things are finally starting to slow down a bit. The gun shop closed up last month so now I will be spending more time at home. Just depends on which home I'm at how much will get done.

Current L/C count = 38.
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Re: The Gravely Timeline Thread

I'm going to tentatively add some stuff from my thread on my new '62 L, subject to correction. And a few things I'd like to see dates for. Perhaps Roger can add in info on bearing caps?


"1922: The Gravely company was incorporated
1923: First production D Model built.
1924: Oldest known to exist D Model built.
1925: Wheel Design change on D Model.
1926:
1927: D Model switches from water cooled to air cooled.
1928: D Model engine design changes
1960: the Gravely Tractor Company was bought by Studebaker corporation for $12.5 million
1963: L model hoods changed from angular bent style to stamped style.
1964: and later L series had rectangular axle housing ends as did the Swifty 63's.
19? L models changed from oil bath to dry element air cleaners
19? L models changed from cast iron rear facing to aluminum bodied front facing carbs.
19? L models changes fro the "regal" or "sunrise" red color scheme to "chevy engine orange" and off white
19? "Chevy engine orange" changed over to "Mustang" orange. (add other names)
19? L models were equipped with high pressure oiling systems
19? L models went from exhaust cams with a protruding end to one that was flush with the engine case
19? L models switched from spring style valve covers to the style with covers (also info on the 2 types with covers?)

Gravelys: 1951 L, 1952 L, 1954 L, 1956 LI, 1961 LI-SR, 1962 L, 1962 LI, 1963 LI, 1965 L8, 1965 LS, C 10, 524, 5460, 8102.

I can quit any time I want. I just don't want to right now.

The rest: 1969 WH Raider 12, 1983 WH A-111, 1985 WH 314A, AC 917H, 1978 Ford 2600, 1978 Ford 4100, 1975 Ford 3550 Industrial, 1959 Farmall 560, 1949 Case VAC, 1951 Case VAC Eagle Hitch, Troy Bilt Horse, Troy Bilt Pony. Mowers, rakes, balers, and far too much other old junk to list....
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Re: The Gravely Timeline Thread

Here's some educated guesses, based some machines in my own family.

19? L models changed from oil bath to dry element air cleaners - 1962-63 ?

19? L models changed from cast iron rear facing to aluminum bodied front facing carbs.
Dad bought an LI new in 1961 from J.P. Fuller in Annapolis, MD. It has a rear-facing aluminum Zenith carb, with the long "wrap-around hose" to the air-cleaner ( oil-bath ).
I have a 1963 Custom L-8 with a front-facing Aluminum Zenith.


19? L models changes fro the "regal" or "sunrise" red color scheme to "chevy engine orange" and off white - 1962-63 ? Probably when they introduced the new sheet-metal.

19? "Chevy engine orange" changed over to "Mustang" orange. (add other names)

19? L models were equipped with high pressure oiling systems - 1958 (according to service manual ?)

19? L models went from exhaust cams with a protruding end to one that was flush with the engine case - do you mean intake-cam ? (Exhaust cam drives the mag...) Probably 1958.

19? L models switched from spring style valve covers to the style with covers (also info on the 2 types with covers?) - 1958, with the switch to high-pressure oiling.

The service manual I refer to is the one Dad got for his 1961 LI...
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Here's some educated guesses, based some machines in my own family.

19? L models changed from oil bath to dry element air cleaners - 1962-63 ?

19? L models changed from cast iron rear facing to aluminum bodied front facing carbs.
Dad bought an LI new in 1961 from J.P. Fuller in Annapolis, MD. It has a rear-facing aluminum Zenith carb, with the long "wrap-around hose" to the air-cleaner ( oil-bath ).
I have a 1963 Custom L-8 with a front-facing Aluminum Zenith.


19? L models changes fro the "regal" or "sunrise" red color scheme to "chevy engine orange" and off white - 1962-63 ? Probably when they introduced the new sheet-metal.

19? "Chevy engine orange" changed over to "Mustang" orange. (add other names)

19? L models were equipped with high pressure oiling systems - 1958 (according to service manual ?)Mid year 1958

19? L models went from exhaust cams with a protruding end to one that was flush with the engine case - do you mean intake-cam ? (Exhaust cam drives the mag...) Probably 1958.

19? L models switched from spring style valve covers to the style with covers (also info on the 2 types with covers?) - 1958, with the switch to high-pressure oiling.

The service manual I refer to is the one Dad got for his 1961 LI...
My comments in Green B-7620 MFG NUM to be exact.

Current L/C count = 38.
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Re: The Gravely Timeline Thread

Updating based on the last couple of posts:

"1922: The Gravely company was incorporated
1923: First production D Model built.
1924: Oldest known to exist D Model built.
1925: Wheel Design change on D Model.
1926:
1927: D Model switches from water cooled to air cooled.
1928: D Model engine design changes
1958, mid year: L models were equipped with high pressure oiling systems
1958? L models went from intake cams with a protruding end to one that was flush with the engine case
1958? L models switched from spring style valve covers to the style with covers (also info on the 2 types with covers?)
1960: the Gravely Tractor Company was bought by Studebaker corporation for $12.5 million
1963: L model hoods changed from angular bent style to stamped style. any in '62?
1962-3: L models changed from oil bath to dry element air cleaners needs verification
1961-2-3? L models changed from cast iron rear facing to aluminum bodied front facing carbs. Was there a year with rear facing aluminum? Needs further narrowing
1962-3? L models changes fro the "regal" or "sunrise" red color scheme to "chevy engine orange" and off white
1964: and later L series had rectangular axle housing ends as did the Swifty 63's.
19? "Chevy engine orange" changed over to "Mustang" orange. (add other names)
19? L models incorporated a trunion block into the pto shift dog
19? L models changed fan shroud style from flower pattern to horizontal cutouts
19? L models became 6.6 HP and had beefier jug tops
19? L models switched from wood hand grips to plastic

Gravelys: 1951 L, 1952 L, 1954 L, 1956 LI, 1961 LI-SR, 1962 L, 1962 LI, 1963 LI, 1965 L8, 1965 LS, C 10, 524, 5460, 8102.

I can quit any time I want. I just don't want to right now.

The rest: 1969 WH Raider 12, 1983 WH A-111, 1985 WH 314A, AC 917H, 1978 Ford 2600, 1978 Ford 4100, 1975 Ford 3550 Industrial, 1959 Farmall 560, 1949 Case VAC, 1951 Case VAC Eagle Hitch, Troy Bilt Horse, Troy Bilt Pony. Mowers, rakes, balers, and far too much other old junk to list....

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My father's LI, purchased new in 1961, has a REAR-FACING aluminum Zenith, with the long moulded rubber tube from the air-cleaner, with the U-turn to the carb air-horn. (Essentially a rubber version of the earlier metal-flex tube with the cast U-turn). This machine also came with a governor, and old-style "rod-type" throttle control.

Dad's LI is Serial # M 61914 Mfg. # 12416, built in 1960, according to the PDF attachment.

I do know that it came that way from Gravely, and was never modified.

This machine also has the slotted fan housing


I'll try to grab some serial info from my other tractors...
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Found some more info...

From Gravely L-8 "Super", Serial # 2 M 3968, Mfg. # G 13634, built 1963. (Like the one in my avatar )

> Front-facing aluminum Carb, w/ short moulded rubber tube to air-cleaner

> Dry element air-cleaner ( pleated paper ) in white tin housing with black silk-screen / indicia.

> Orange and white

> Starter

> No Governor, old-style throttle lever and rod

> dual wheels

> remote PTO control (loop-handle)

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