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post #1 of 17 Old 05-22-2015, 07:48 AM Thread Starter
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800 axle woodruff keys

I swear I saw this go by earlier, but I can't find it now, and it looks like I didn't put it in my cross-reference sheet: who has a second source for the woodruff keys used on 800 (straight) rider axles?

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Re: 800 axle woodruff keys

If you can get me the size I might even have them in stock, John. If not, I can probably get them pretty reasonable as I purchase thousands a year. Just an option

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post #3 of 17 Old 05-22-2015, 08:07 AM Thread Starter
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Re: 800 axle woodruff keys

Thanks Ellis!

Per http://gravelymanuals.com/pdf/816_IPL_19750600.pdf it's Gravely part number 187184 "Key, Woodruff, 1/4 x 2-1/8 Soft no. 127"

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Re: 800 axle woodruff keys

I believe this is a Gravely only part. The woodruff key 127 is NOT correct the length and height match but the arc is way off. I ordered some 127 keys and not even close to working. As you can see from this pic a 127 is almost a half a circle. . Jason



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Re: 800 axle woodruff keys

Jason, correct, it's not the usual profile for a woodruff key; the diameter is 2-1/8 but the height is something like 1/2.

I could have sworn I saw references to other sources for them, I just can't find them now.

I left voicemail for Richard's yesterday, I should probably just call them again. I'd still like to find another source, though.

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Re: 800 axle woodruff keys

I'm checking my source

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Re: 800 axle woodruff keys

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I believe this is a Gravely only part. The woodruff key 127 is NOT correct the length and height match but the arc is way off. I ordered some 127 keys and not even close to working. As you can see from this pic a 127 is almost a half a circle. . Jason



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Could it be a stock key was milled down, Jason?

Edit: as in a flat back type

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Re: 800 axle woodruff keys

The radius is way off the Gravely key is (just guessing) 6" dia.

I got a bag of 50 of those worthless 127 keys I would gladly find a home for!!!

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1977 817 50"
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Re: 800 axle woodruff keys

I got a couple of sets from a friend of mine and they matched the old ones perfectly. I believe he said he sourced them through a GM part number. The key is for the harmonic balancer. He didn't give me a year though.

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Re: 800 axle woodruff keys

Tyrtrx, are those axles soft enough to use a hi speed steel key cutter to touch up a damaged key way or to cut another in a standard size? Ruben
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Re: 800 axle woodruff keys

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The radius is way off the Gravely key is (just guessing) 6" dia.
Actually, I think it's correct. I drew a 2-1/8 circle and set one of those keys in it. It fit perfectly.

It looks bigger than that because it's a shallow chord across the circle.

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Re: 800 axle woodruff keys

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The radius is way off the Gravely key is (just guessing) 6" dia.

I got a bag of 50 of those worthless 127 keys I would gladly find a home for!!!
Any chance I could buy a few?
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Re: 800 axle woodruff keys

What for??? They are not correct.

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1987 8123 40"
1974 816 50", rear liftable hitch PTO, steering brakes, front PTO, snowplow, R&P steering
1977 817 50"
1983 8179KT 50", front PTO
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1989 20G 50", rear liftable hitch PTO, steering brakes, front PTO
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1990 16G 50"
1992 16G 50", snow plow, steering brakes
1989 24G 72"
2015 Gravely Atlas JSV3000
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Re: 800 axle woodruff keys

I sure would buy a few if one ever is made available somewhere. No way a part like that should remain a Gravely only source.

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I sure would buy a few if one ever is made available somewhere. No way a part like that should remain a Gravely only source.
Richard has them. My attempts to find a second source struck out.

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