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Re: Should I buy a Gravely 816T?

Attachments for a Gravely are as close to limitless as it gets in the GT arena. PK is almost the opposite.
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Re: Should I buy a Gravely 816T?

I really appreciate everyone's thoughts on this Gravely and it sounds like I won't be going wrong if I buy it. The more I read about that Onan engine, the more I see that it sounds like a beast with tons of torque that should last a long time.

One problem I am having is that I keep seeing so many tractor deals pop up near me. For example, there's a Simplicity Sovereign 18H for only $300 more than the Gravely, and it comes with a 48" deck, plow, blade, wheel weights, chains, etc. It's been owned by an older gentleman for a long time and the motor sounds great and it appears to be in great shape. The only visible issue is a tear in the seat. That, and it comes with the TRIAD engine that Kohler experimented with for a couple years. He's had it forever though and it sounds like he's used it regularly for mowing and plowing, so maybe he got one of the good ones.

The Simplicity is a tempting purchase given it's only $300 more and comes with so much stuff. I started out just wanting something to maintain the grass, but having that plow and the blade should would be handy for driveway, moving dirt, etc... Somebody help me. What direction should I go?
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Re: Should I buy a Gravely 816T?

Dozer blades are readily available for the Gravely rider's and they work very well due to the fact that they mount at the rear axle and you have all the weight of a cast iron transmission and rear mounted engine working in your favor both from a winter traction standpoint and pushing capability. These plows angle 45 degrees left and right from the seat. I shouldn't need to mention the benefits of a gear drive transmission over a hydrostatic for pushing and pulling.

If you find a 1972 816 you will also have an LSD.

Some of us have been pushing significant snowfalls with gravely riders for decades. Without going to all wheel drive, it is about as good as it gets for winter snow duty.

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Well I got a the Gravely. I wasn’t able to talk him down much, but he did throw in a set of tire chains. He said some leave them on all the time. Good idea?

Thanks everyone for putting up with my indecisiveness. I’m happy with it and excited to begin using it.
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And these are the beginning, and ending serial numbers for 1972 tractors (limited slip diffs.): 10878A-15044A. Rumor has it that a few early 1973 models may have also left the factory with LSD. Not that it's the end of the world by any means if it isn't. My non-LSD tractors do very well under all circumstances. Good luck this weekend!
I see the serial number for the Onan. Where do I find the serial number for the Gravely itself?
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Re: Should I buy a Gravely 816T?

I'd probably source a factory grill, ditch the extra lights and pickup some rubber stool feet at the big box store for the fender support springs. Also, check the rear axle for snow plow latches and the axle stub shaft for the rear tiller setup.

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Re: Should I buy a Gravely 816T?

Congratulations! The serial number plate will likely be located on top of the engine adapter plate between the engine, and transmission.


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Re: Should I buy a Gravely 816T?

Good choice! Pickup some Black Magic griptape (skate board grip) for your foot rests... I've had good luck with it.

The first set of pictures appears to show the snow plow latches.

By the way - chains are a nice add-on. LSD or not, that tractor will be near unstoppable with chains.
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By the way - chains are a nice add-on. LSD or not, that tractor will be near unstoppable with chains.


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Sorry to take so long to reply. I located the serial number below the air filter —15896A. Based on this, it appears it does not have the LSD? Does this make the tractor a 1973? I did find 11-18-72 stamped on the side though (pic attached).

I checked the front of the tractor and no spline. No spline on the right rear part of the axle...just a big hole.

I added rubber stool feet to the springs under the seat. Great idea!

I noticed a hose tucked under the air filter, which I pulled out for a pic (attached). The hose wasn’t connected to anything on one side. Should it be? What’s that part it’s attached to in the pic?

I also noticed the rear driver’s side (left) wheel has about 1/8” of play, whereas the other side does not. Is this ok? Pics are attached showing the difference.

Overall, the tractor seems great. There’s some minor stuff I noticed.... gas cap gasket seems old and brittle, some cotter pins are a bit worn and brittle, and rear tires look dry rotted. Nothing major that I can see and the tractor runs strong. Thanks again for all the help.
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Re: Should I buy a Gravely 816T?

Interesting.

Are we talking wheel play, hub play or axle play? I sure hope it isn't the latter.

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I think wheel play. It feels normal to me—it feels similar to the play in a trailer wheel. I was just surprised because the opposite side doesn’t seem to have any play at all.

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[QUOTE=kyavion;12352955]Sorry to take so long to reply. I located the serial number below the air filter ó15896A. Does this make the tractor a 1973? I did find 11-18-72 stamped on the side though (pic attached).

I noticed a hose tucked under the air filter, which I pulled out for a pic (attached). The hose wasnít connected to anything on one side. Should it be? Whatís that part itís attached to in the pic?

I also noticed the rear driverís side (left) wheel has about 1/8Ē of play, whereas the other side does not. Is this ok? Pics are attached showing the difference.


Yes, your 816 is a 1973. My guess is that the 11-8-72 stamped on the trans. housing is the casting date of the housing. Rumer had it that a some early '73 tractors may have had leftover '72 transmissions installed. Your tractor being 5xx into '73 production would make me think not, but yet, if your trans. with it's casting date of 11-8-72 happened to be preassembled some time before the tractor was built...?

Regarding the 1/8" axle space, you may want to check to see that the outer axle end is flush with the outer hub center. If the axle end is 1/8" inward of the hub center, then the hub's set bolt needs to be loosened, so that you can push the hub inward on the axle (a little persuasion with a rubber mallet may help). You can also check the axle/hub end position against the other axle/hub end position. If this is the case, but the hub doesn't want to budge, no problem. The hub set bolts should be checked for tightness from time to time.

That piece is the crankcase breather. The rubber hose connects to the underside of the air filter housing.


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I see one axle set bolt on the rear right (passenger) side. I’ve attached a pic to make sure I’m looking at the right thing?

With the rear end lifted, I noticed the following...

On the side with the set bolt, the hub (?) that the wheel bolts to sticks out past the wheel just a fraction, and there is no play between the ring that holds the wheel in place and the wheel itself.

From either side, and axle can be pushed/pulled approximately 3/16” of an inch. The play on the sloppy side is approximately 1/8” in addition to that by moving against the ring that holds the wheel in place.

On the side with play, the wheel can be jiggled all directions. Time for new bearings?
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I also noticed the front axle assembly has some play. Should it be that way or should that center bolt be snug?
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