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post #1 of 10 Old 07-14-2018, 11:51 PM Thread Starter
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Best Gravely for rough bumpy mowing

I have an IH-140 with a 60" belly mower that I've been using to cut around 2-3 acres of grass at my parent's house. it has been having some issues with stopping and not restarting lately, so I've finished up a few times with my 8163-G, and one time I did the whole area with it. It does the job, but I am beat up afterwards. The constant bouncing around over ruts, gopher mounds and just generally rough ground makes it not a very pleasant experience. The IH-140, of course has a much longer wheelbase and wider track that makes it more comfortable. I was mowing in third gear to get the job done faster, so I know that makes for a rougher ride, but the machine has enough power to handle cutting at that speed and I don't want to take all day with the job. Is there a model (24G?) that has a longer wheelbase or wider track, or is there something else I can do to make the experience more comfortable? Different tires, air pressure, maybe?

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Re: Best Gravely for rough bumpy mowing

The smoothness of the IH140 is due to the tire size.
Gravelys are a different class of machine. It is like comparing a golf ball to a basketball.

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Re: Best Gravely for rough bumpy mowing

Do you have a decent sized mower for one of your walk behinds? I found my old L with the sulky and the 40 inch mower way more comfortable than the 4 wheel mtd rider I was using. The rider was hard on my lower back when I hit bumps and holes and I would feel it the next day. When I started using the walkbehind with the sulky, my back problems went away.

All this happened by accident, I switched to the 2 wheeler with the sulky for other reasons. So I tried to figure out what the difference was, and found one difference was I was hanging some of my upper body weight on the handlebars of the 2 wheel tractor, so it supported my upper body some, while the steering wheel on the 4 wheeler lends no support at all. There may be some advantage also with the flexibility of the sulky hitch inbetween you and the tractor, but not sure about that.

Of course you will have a little more effort in turning a sulky/2 wheel setup. But I didn't have many turns or things to mow around in my situation. If you have a 2 wheel/sulky you can use, I would try it and see what happens.
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The smoothness of the IH140 is due to the tire size.
Gravelys are a different class of machine. It is like comparing a golf ball to a basketball.

I leave the rest up to you.
I kind of knew that was the case even as I asked the question. My best course of action is probably going to be figuring out the trouble with the IH 140.

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Do you have a decent sized mower for one of your walk behinds? I found my old L with the sulky and the 40 inch mower way more comfortable than the 4 wheel mtd rider I was using. The rider was hard on my lower back when I hit bumps and holes and I would feel it the next day. When I started using the walkbehind with the sulky, my back problems went away.

All this happened by accident, I switched to the 2 wheeler with the sulky for other reasons. So I tried to figure out what the difference was, and found one difference was I was hanging some of my upper body weight on the handlebars of the 2 wheel tractor, so it supported my upper body some, while the steering wheel on the 4 wheeler lends no support at all. There may be some advantage also with the flexibility of the sulky hitch inbetween you and the tractor, but not sure about that.

Of course you will have a little more effort in turning a sulky/2 wheel setup. But I didn't have many turns or things to mow around in my situation. If you have a 2 wheel/sulky you can use, I would try it and see what happens.
I do have a sulky and a 5665 with 40" mower. I've used the sulky in the past and didn't care for it. I have a number of hills and hillsides to mow and wouldn't care to be doing that on a sulky either. Thanks for the suggestion, though.

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Re: Best Gravely for rough bumpy mowing

GMT 9000 is a relatively large tractor (as garden tractors go). It provides for a MUCH nicer ride than my JD 216 could provide. Cuts a LOT faster too. (72" deck.)
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If you could look into a different manufacturer, Ferris makes zero turns with 4 wheel independent suspension. They ride like a Cadillac!
Otherwise, maybe try a suspension seat.

The sulky may have helped back problems also (wondering out loud here) because withthe sulky, you only feel the bump one time - when the sulky goes over the bump. When the 2 wheel tractor pulling the sulky hits a bump, you don't feel it quite as much. On a 4 wheel tractor, the front and rear tires hit the same bumps. You feel each bump twice.


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GMT 9000 is a relatively large tractor (as garden tractors go). It provides for a MUCH nicer ride than my JD 216 could provide. Cuts a LOT faster too. (72" deck.)
I like this idea. Longer frame, more weight and bigger deck. I know HelixHippie used to do some serious rough cut mowing with his.

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I second the suspension seat idea. I found one on ebay for like $99 with spring and adjustable shock. It makes a huge difference on the zero turn vs the standard hinged seat with 2 springs. Due to the frame and suspension components, it is about 5 inches taller, so it does effect your center of gravity and controls ergonomics.
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I second the suspension seat idea. I found one on ebay for like $99 with spring and adjustable shock. It makes a huge difference on the zero turn vs the standard hinged seat with 2 springs. Due to the frame and suspension components, it is about 5 inches taller, so it does effect your center of gravity and controls ergonomics.
My GMT already has a suspension seat.....
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