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post #31 of 51 Old 02-14-2018, 10:17 PM
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That tractor is pushing snow this winter in North East Ohio, in the summer it brush hogs paths through a friends back lot.

And yes, it has not one, but two restored hoods, one in early beige and one in the red of the gas tank, both with Craig Seabrook's decals.
Can you post a cpl more pics of that tractor?
And wich is better the stickers or decals and whats the diff?
Only decals I have ever used was the type you soak in water like on a models back in the day.
Let me guess the decals are best but are 10x harder to put on right?
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Can you post a cpl more pics of that tractor?
And wich is better the stickers or decals and whats the diff?
Only decals I have ever used was the type you soak in water like on a models back in the day.
Let me guess the decals are best but are 10x harder to put on right?
The trick to applying larger stickers is wet the surface first with a mix of water and dish soap. I canít say the exact ratio, perhaps 10:1. 10 parts water to 1 part soap. Its Been a while since I last did this. Apply the mixture to the surface wetting it entirely. Add the sticker. The sticker will float and you can move it to exactly where you need it easily. Then squeegee out the water and air bubbles and let dry. Works like a charm!

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Re: Pierce Governor Oil Fill - How To Measure?

Sounds like a big model decal, and its good until it decides to rip like they always seemed to do to me at least.
Well is the stickers half way decent? But I may not have a choice either huh?
The squeegee sounds like the scary part.
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Jet-A is spot on and I doubt you will tear these decals like the ones in model kits tend to do. They are vinyl and reasonably thick.
Since your walk behind is a manual start or at least the hood is you want the convertible or custom convertible decal. The super convertible decal is for the electric start models. When I did my '63 L8 I used a small bondo paddle because it was fairly soft and more flexible than I remember them being years ago. Use just enough pressure to get the soapy water out from under the decal and then let it sit for a few hours to dry. Easy. I googled applying vinyl decals and came up with some good you tube videos if that works better for you.

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OK Thanks a lot, I was being kind of dramatic comparing them to those little model decals but I always did manage to get them on when I was a kid along with saying a few new ' Magic words' I had learned from the cigarette smoking crowd at the school bus stop lol. ( wich I was one of ).
But in all seriousness I have to e-mail Mr. Seabrook because I have the catalog he sent me but its been a year ago prolly and it says "all of these are $28 & send Money Order" and such but I want to make sure it is all still the same.
The main ones I want are the 18" or so ones that say 'GRAVELY' down the hood so it does'nt look so shade - tree'd like some thumb buster just scrubbed it w/a wire brush and sprayed it w/some white paint he found somewhere because a bit more care went into it than just that.
Last night I ordered a new pr of chains for the tires @ $39 ( when some were on there for $89 and the ones I ordered got a great rating) and a metal PTO cover for less than $10 and the same thing was on there for $23 and just incase I needed it a new nut for the fan assy, that big but thin one that goes on the center of that fan/shaft/pulley rig and in a few mins Im going to TSC for some long dual adapter bolts that I have to post a pic of and ask a question about.
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OK Here it is, anyway as pic shows the rusty short rim bolts are what I removed from the LI I got for parts and the shiney new one in the middle are the new ones I got from where I got my new rims from, now the old rusty ones had two washers stacked on them Im figuring to make them shorter/compensate for them being to long but since I cant remember the name of the place I got new rims from ( e-bay) I will just get six of that length so I will be sure because a few bucks isnt worth me litterally going to Ohio to get them on a weekend if my new ones happen to be wrong instead.
And are the long dual adapt. bolts just half-thread bolts like the long one or are that all the way threaded?
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I just got back from the pharmacy and the largest syringe they carry is a 10cc/ml... I looked in our kitchen and saw some measuring scoops - one tablespoon is equal to 15ml and one teaspoon is 5ml. I will measure out as close as I can to 33cc using the scoops and water as the medium and place it in a clear container. Next, I will mark the height and empty out the water and replace it with oil. Finally, this oil will be added to the governor and I am done!
What I use to measure out oil in all the 2 stroke stuff I have is a childs medication cup. everytime we get meds (liquid tylenol etc) for the kids, a lot of them come with little measuring cups. I robbed one of the many we have accumulated and keep it in my chainsaw tool box.
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I just got back from the pharmacy and the largest syringe they carry is a 10cc/ml... I looked in our kitchen and saw some measuring scoops - one tablespoon is equal to 15ml and one teaspoon is 5ml. I will measure out as close as I can to 33cc using the scoops and water as the medium and place it in a clear container. Next, I will mark the height and empty out the water and replace it with oil. Finally, this oil will be added to the governor and I am done!
Go to the household goods aisle in the supermarket ...get a turkey baster...it has a bulb rather than a plunger

I sometimes jam some fuel hose on it to suck small debris out of my fuel tanks when I notice it
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Yea there are all kinds of stuff you can get but like they say if you want chicken go to a fish place and visa-versa ( as far as the pharmacy goes lol) but the flavor injectors for deep frying turkeys and cooking in general prolly have some stuff to use as well.
From now on Im just gonna post a new thread w/each question because altho I dont mean to a question gets asked and answered and all of a sudden the thread goes another direction and its like jacking a thread.
Sorry Fireant, wont happen again, didnt mean to in the first place there Buddy
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Re: Pierce Governor Oil Fill - How To Measure?

I have a 1968 L Model with a Pierce Governor that is currently acting up on me. One of the issues I ran into was the circular connector that has a set screw on the bottom and attaches to one of the rods at the Governor. The device used to attach that circular piece rusted off and I'm looking for the proper pieces to put it back onto the link arm.

Also, if I cannot get this Governor up and running, how do I go about properly removing the Governor so I can continue to use my machine?
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Also, if I cannot get this Governor up and running, how do I go about properly removing the Governor so I can continue to use my machine?
If you want to take the governor system off, you will have to redo the throttle linkage, hooking it directly to the carb lever. You will notice with the governor, the governor is the only thing hooked to the carb, your throttle just puts more or less pressure on the governor arm.

If you do take it off, make sure to take pictures and mark where everything goes so you can put it back if you want.

You can probably put a universal type lawnmower throttle cable on it if you need to if you take the governor off.
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Re: Pierce Governor Oil Fill - How To Measure?

Thank-you much for the information. I appreciate it. Would love to get the Governor up and running again. It's my Grandfather's and Father's machine they purchased in 1968 together. It runs like a champ and I use it primarily for snow pushing. Would like to keep it running for handoff to my boys as well.
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...From now on Im just gonna post a new thread w/each question because altho I dont mean to a question gets asked and answered and all of a sudden the thread goes another direction and its like jacking a thread.
Sorry Fireant, wont happen again, didnt mean to in the first place there Buddy
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ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!! These are the threads that I find the most beneficial. So what if they veer off track slightly; these are the ones that seem to have the best information in them. I have learned a great deal from these - so no, this is natural transition... one that often produces more and better answers than I ever imagined.

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ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!! These are the threads that I find the most beneficial. So what if they veer off track slightly; these are the ones that seem to have the best information in them. I have learned a great deal from these - so no, this is natural transition... one that often produces more and better answers than I ever imagined.
OK Then, I actually feel the same way.
Thanks.
P.S. I did some e-bay shopping last night and put a e-mail to Richards for some pricing on sending my mag to him for refurbishing and I want a front deck guard. I dont know why I didnt get one when I was there getting the rear guard but I was actually at work at the time and was in a tremendous hurry (as always) but I dont know if he accepts VISA or Money Orders or what.
Im sure he'll get back w/me.
But as of Yesterday I am officially looking for a nice L model or even a LI as long as it does not need a bunch of work because like I have said before I plan on buying a good running one to give to my son so I can do my L Ive had for almost 3 yrs. without any pressure wich messes me up considerably , then he can pick wich one he wants to keep.
But Im always gonna have one to work on and restore as best I can because its my new hobby and I ve had a love for these machines for years actually.
Take care and Im gonna put out the word around Dunbar , Charleston and here in Huntington as well and actually I already have more than one real good leads.
Oh yea, do you know about those long dual bolts in the pic I posted on here? Are they half-thread like I removed and do they look original? And how bout those short rim bolts?

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Go to the household goods aisle in the supermarket ...get a turkey baster...it has a bulb rather than a plunger

I sometimes jam some fuel hose on it to suck small debris out of my fuel tanks when I notice it
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That is certainly a workable solution! Simple, inexpensive, and effective - I like it. Thanks.

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...P.S. I did some e-bay shopping last night and put a e-mail to Richards for some pricing on sending my mag to him for refurbishing and I want a front deck guard. I dont know why I didnt get one when I was there getting the rear guard but I was actually at work at the time and was in a tremendous hurry (as always) but I dont know if he accepts VISA or Money Orders or what....

Oh yea, do you know about those long dual bolts in the pic I posted on here? Are they half-thread like I removed and do they look original? And how bout those short rim bolts?
I am tight with money... with that said, may I inquire as to why you want to send the magneto out for refurbishment? Isn't this one the spare that you got with your latest machine? If so, have you had a chance to bench test it yet? I would verify the presence and condition of the spark first... who knows, it may be already delivering a fat, healthy blue spark right now If not, it may just take a swipe with a business card saturated with acetone to clean the points.

The 3-1/2" long bolts on mine, like yours, were not threaded all the way. Based on the application, they are stronger as the actual portion required to be threaded is a small percentage of the overall bolt length.

I just sent you a PM regarding ordering parts - hopefully you can benefit from it!

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Thanks on the bolts, and everything else to of course but I might back-off on the Magneto for a bit because I have never tested either of them and just wanted for someone to confirm that its a good one but heck I can replace a gasket on one and clean and/or install points and a condensor to I'd think, I mean they all pretty much are fastened with small bolts or screws aint they?
In that case I might just see if anything looks to corroded or totally shot and replace it with whatever kit is needed. So I agree that I'll put that on the back burner for awhile because I have many more other things to do at the present.
If I had some idea of what a 'Magneto goin-over' would cost things would be different but considering who knows what has to be or does not have to be done to one of them sight-unseen Im backing off from it right now.
Im starting out a new thread on a little issue Im having removing a starter fly wheel.
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