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Ok so just common sense maintenance . If you wash it , dry it before parking it .

Bruceatlam , I'll have to see if I can find that deck spray around here . I did see some spray in the mower area at Tractor Supply that is paraphin based for the underside of decks . Maybe I'll give that one a try . Can't remember the name of it though .

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The version that I have is in a quart can and is a "brush on" product. It's a high solids product and tough to keep mixed up as it sits on the shelf --- graphite solids.

The name is "Clean Deck" and I bought in on line.
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Ok , I talked with Burt at API . He gave me literature on KBS Coatings . About $17.00 for rust prep/etcher . $40.00 for a quart of the coating . They had an old piece of rusted diamond plate half coated as an example . It seems to be about 1/16 thick coat of appliance enamel . Very smooth and very hard . When I mentioned the spindle bolts in the deck , he said DO NOT cover the bolts or spindles or you may never get them out again . This stuff is a very hard permanent bond .

Heck , for $60.00 total , I'll give it a try at the end of summer .

Also they are dealers of Fluid Film
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I cant believe the gargantuan size of that Gravely rider in above post, I had no idea they made riders like that untill I got on here.
When growing up around here 30 to 35 miles from the Dunbar factory everyone had a walk behind Gravely and thats how I learned how to use/handle them but I never paid any attention to the riders. Were riders made in Dunbar to?
But to get back to the thread subject if I have time I spray off the underside of a push mower w/a hose and knock the grass and debris off with air hose or leaf blower, they are aluminum anyway so I dont guess it hurts them and I also leave it in the sun till its dry wich takes not very long because it gets hot here to the point that you cant even touch the deck without burning the soup out of yourself.
And I sharpen my blade about every 3 rd. or 4th. time and if there is anything under there I get it off w/a stick or long screw driver or whatever. And keep my filter and stuff clean as well because I bought a new one this spring and I can get 15 yrs. out of them.
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So, you guys who are scraping off decks after every mowing, are you jacking the tractor up with one if those modern mower lifts? Are these 800 lb Gravely tractors like mine? I don't have a mower jack, would not want one.
I avoiding cutting wet grass, and only clean once/twice a year as mentioned above. The pictures speak for themselves.

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Lifting the front of a rear engine rider doesn't take much effort...I can pick the front of my parents 8199kt off the ground without much effort.

The 450 I had almost floated it was so light in the front...same with my 8162. It's no wonder they made front wheel weights for the Gravely riders.

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I have a HF mower lift, but it is a pain to get to in it's stored position. Mostly use a 3 ton floor jack to lift the front. Also have an angled ramp to help.

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Just to add to the whole underside of the deck treatment part of the discussion - i don't have a gravely rider, but i do have a 48" wheel horse deck. when I got it, it had no paint on the underside, so i went ahead and cleaned it up and coated it with POR-15 - in my opinion it was probably one of the best moves i could have made. The stuff is really hard once cured, and grass doesn't' cling to it nearly as bad as decks i have had in the past. It is also really easy to clean - i just let the grass dry and the blow it off with compressed air from a long wand.

i'm not worried about the bottom of the deck rotting because the POR-15 seals it. I've had it 3 seasons now that way and haven't noticed any chipping or cracking at all in the POR-15 - i plan on doing my snowblower this summer when i service it.
I keep calling it/or them "riders" as in 'riding mowers' but are they really a tractor? I mean can you hook up buckets and other attachments to it/them like on the walk behinds?
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Lifting the front of a rear engine rider doesn't take much effort...I can pick the front of my parents 8199kt off the ground without much effort.

The 450 I had almost floated it was so light in the front...same with my 8162. It's no wonder they made front wheel weights for the Gravely riders.

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Well, I have a nice floor jack, and I have lifted my tractor, but getting down there and scraping the deck clean after every mowing is not something I want to be doing, or that my own experience as shown to be necessary. I would rather remove it and clean it well once or twice a season than get on the ground under there every week....

I think the condition of my deck after 21 years shows that to be more than adequate - see pictures posted above.

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I keep calling it/or them "riders" as in 'riding mowers' but are they really a tractor? I mean can you hook up buckets and other attachments to it/them like on the walk behinds?
Yes it is a tractor. It can run front and rear tillers with the right accessory setups, another company (Kwik Way) made front end loaders for them, they have snow plows and BIG snow blowers (mine is 48"), GRAVELY made a mid mount grader blade fore them, and more.

Virtually any two wheel tractor attachment can be run on the front of them.

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Well, I have a nice floor jack, and I have lifted my tractor, but getting down there and scraping the deck clean after every mowing is not something I want to be doing, or that my own experience as shown to be necessary. I would rather remove it and clean it well once or twice a season than get on the ground under there every week....

I think the condition of my deck after 21 years shows that to be more than adequate - see pictures posted above.

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I'm not saying I do any different...just pointing out how light some of these tractors are in the front wouldn't stress a front lift.

The fabricated deck on my Grasshopper is lucky to get scraped once a year. It took almost a week to pull, flip, scrape, wirebrush, and paint it a year ago...it makes a Gravely 60" deck look lightweight, making it very difficult to work with (we are talking cherry picker to even flip it vertical, let alone upside down).

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Steved,

As you can see from my pictures in my earlier thread, I run a three can bagger on my GRAVELY rider, and that makes it really light in the front - 300 lbs hanging off the rear..... For that reason I have 35 lb GRAVELY front wheel weights and run my rear wheel weights all year long for stability.

I was just amazed at several responses saying they scrap/clean the deck after every mowing.......

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Ok , I talked with Burt at API . He gave me literature on KBS Coatings . About $17.00 for rust prep/etcher . $40.00 for a quart of the coating . They had an old piece of rusted diamond plate half coated as an example . It seems to be about 1/16 thick coat of appliance enamel . Very smooth and very hard . When I mentioned the spindle bolts in the deck , he said DO NOT cover the bolts or spindles or you may never get them out again . This stuff is a very hard permanent bond .

Heck , for $60.00 total , I'll give it a try at the end of summer .

Also they are dealers of Fluid Film
Sounds Very similar to POR - probably just as effective (if not more)


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I keep calling it/or them "riders" as in 'riding mowers' but are they really a tractor? I mean can you hook up buckets and other attachments to it/them like on the walk behinds?
i'm not really familiar with the gravely riders, so i can't comment there - but my wheelhorse 520H i can definitely not single highhandedly pick up (it weighs about 900 pounds with loaded tires and wheel weights). it comes with a huge series of attachments, currently i have a front mounted chipper/shredder, snow blower, mid mount mower, Mid mount grader and rear mount tiller. you can get loaders and the like for them, though i don't have one. In my opinion, they are a garden tractor.
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Yes, garden tractor, the GRAVELY is similar to your Wheelhorse, the GRAVELY G series I posted pictures of weighs 850 lbs before the deck, wheel weights, and rear bagger. As pictured with that young man driving, my tractor is over 1500 lbs.

I'm not tilting it up on its back wheels and crawling under it to scrape off the deck.........

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PA RedRider, how do you scrape down the deck every time?

Well, most all of you have seen more than few pictures of my tractor, but to be honest, I'm not quite that fussy.

About twice a mowing season, sometimes three times, I pressure wash the whole rig. Yes I am careful not to spray high pressure water in obvious places. I have never had a problem or a failure that could be traced back to water........I do let it run a while afterwards.

Usually only once a year, sometime in the late spring, I take the deck off, put it on the deck dolly, scrape it off and then pressure wash it. I clean the underside pretty well down to paint/metal. I take no special precautions beyond common sense in where I spray the direct stream. It is during this cleaning that I replace the blades. Again old blades are only sharpened and reused one additional time.

After 21 years it still looks pretty much like this:



At the end of the season sometimes I pressure wash it again, sometimes I just scrape it off until spring.

I always wait until after I dethatch before doing that first spring cleanup, because the dethatching is a bit muddy sometimes and makes a dusty mess with the dead grass.

After any pressure washing I grease the tractor.

That is all I have done for 21 years - still looks like this:





After "most" mowings, I do blow it off with the leaf blower.

I have repainted the underside of the deck several times with GRAVELY red spray cans, and I have considered various coatings, but as of yet I have not acted on any such ideas. While my deck shell is original and in good condition, I do have a new one waiting for the next, and likely last rebuild in my lifetime.

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Credit for the wooden deck dolly goes to Mikey4 here on the Gravely forum. There is a sticky with the plans.

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Does that young man have a mowing permit? Nice set up.
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