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post #16 of 46 Old 03-02-2016, 08:30 PM
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Re: Case 1816B Skidsteer Refresh

I'm not sure how long you have ran it at one time, but don't be surprised in warmer weather it runs for about 30-45 minutes then shuts down. I put what I think is the very same pump you have, Mr. Gasket pump on my 450 Bobcat. And the only reason I did that, is the rental company I bought it from had put the same pump on, and I thought it was going bad, so replaced it.

Come to find out, the OEM manual pump had apparently given up the ghost, so instead of pulling the engine and replacing it, they went with the electric pump. The problem is, after a short while with all of the heat in the engine compartment, those little pumps get so hot, the little oscillating piston in there that pumps the fuel seizes up, and quits pumping. Let it set long enough to cool off, and it's good to go.

I finally figured out what was going on, so got a new OEM manual pump and installed it. That was 8 years ago, and it hasn't missed a beat to this day.

I'm not saying it will, but, don't be surprised if it does. Time will tell...
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Thanks for the tip!

I am a bit leery of this pump, but it's hanging out in the open so it shouldn't get too much extra heat.
I consciously mounted it in a spot that I figured would be as far from the heat as possible, yet still maintain a short fuel line.
I actually spent quite a while thinking about it, as I tend to do.
More thinking than doing, most of the time.

I ended up right on the back of the machine, under the engine, right beside the fuel filler neck, yet still protected by the rear guard that holds the oil cooler.
I made a little bracket that I welded to the motor mount adapter I made.

The only time it's died on me is when I legitimately run out of gas. (just happened tonight at the end of the driveway)
Did I mention this Onan is thirsty?
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I know of several guys who had Mr.Gasket electric fuel pumps die in short order,including myself...they are junk in my opinion...I think the plastic "dipped" coating makes them get too hot and they fry..

"Airtex" used to be a very reliable brand,but I have heard many of those have failed in short order in recent years also--including their OEM in-tank replacement fuel pumps..

I have had good luck with these two styles of electric fuel pumps...the Facet square ones are more expensive,but last...I have a "no-name" round one on my diesel pickup like the one pictured below,that has been on it 13 years and still going strong..you can find the round ones on E-bay for as little as 10 bucks and up...(the lower psi ones are more costly than the typical 5-7 psi ones most vehicles use)..
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Hmmmm...

So far two thumbs down for my pump, eh.

Well I'm gonna keep it (obviously) but I will definitely keep you all posted on how and when it dies.
Hopefully not any time soon.

Guess I better keep that little test tank and the duct tape close.
This thing is pretty much impossible to move when it's not running.
And knowing my luck it will die in the worst of spots...


Thanks for the info on the pumps you do trust, tractorholic.
I will try to find one when the time comes.

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Just for reference, both my own and others who might find this thread in search of information on these machine, I'm posting a link to the Case ce parts site.

They have the complete exploded diagrams with parts and numbers for the whole machine.




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Official Case Construction Equipment Online Parts Store and Parts Look Up. Parts for Case Equipment and Construction Equipment. Parts Store for Case Wheel Loaders, Case Excavators, Case Skid Steers, Case Original Parts.



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If the link works, it should come up on the fuel pump page.
Hit the "back to manual" tab and the sections should appear as folders.

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I took a trip to the scrap yard yesterday with my my neighbour to pick up a dirtbike he found.
I was poking around and found a heavy duty 54" blade with trip springs.
Not sure what it was for, and it's missing the mount, but for $50 I couldn't say no!


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Now I need to figure out how I want to mount it.
Clip on to the bucket, stand alone mounts or to work with the forklift frame I have.
What I really want to have is a quick change adapter for all my attachments, but not sure how to make it yet.
I would like to go with a standard mini skidsteer QA in case I find some attachments with that system one day.
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Good find Ben! That looks like a well built blade. Are you thinking of leaving it as a blade or making a "bottomless bucket" like Larry's?



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I am thinking of making removeable sides so it can be either one.

I also was entertaining the thought of a hydraulic V plow like they are making for trucks these days, but I think I might need a 6 foot to build one of those.
I would also need the remotes for that, which I don't have yet.

I think a V plow would be more versatile that a box pusher.
You could change it from V out to V in and angle it both ways.
I guess you would need 2 separate remotes to control it fully.
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It took me 7 years to to find a Q/A head for my 450 Bobcat. Got it, and a pretty decent bucket for $200.00 at a equipment salvage yard. Almost felt ashamed for getting it for that. Almost.....

I'd made a manure bucket, and bale spear for it to hook up to the OEM pin connection. Last winters project was to convert them to hook to the Q/A head. How sweet that is to switch out in a minute, rather than 10-15 minutes.

If you can fab one, you'll love it..!!
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It took me 7 years to to find a Q/A head for my 450 Bobcat. Got it, and a pretty decent bucket for $200.00 at a equipment salvage yard. Almost felt ashamed for getting it for that. Almost.....

I'd made a manure bucket, and bale spear for it to hook up to the OEM pin connection. Last winters project was to convert them to hook to the Q/A head. How sweet that is to switch out in a minute, rather than 10-15 minutes.

If you can fab one, you'll love it..!!
Thanks for the incentive.
I can only imagine how handy it must be.

The thing is I can fab one.
I am a machinist and I have a very well equipped shop at home.
The only problem is Murphy lives here, too.

I can see it now.
I will search and search and never find one.
I will spend weeks building something like that because I don't want to pay for a new one.
As soon as I'm finished building it, I will find one for sale on Kijij or at an auction for a steal of a price.
Happens all the time

We'll just see how desperate I become...
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Really good lookin' blade GB, full frame reinforced. Would make a really nice pusher.

The fixed vee plows are good if you have a contract for a few miles of city sidewalk but probably not as handy at home. Bombardier Trackless used them a lot. The Hyd Vee's seem to go for big bucks, even used.

Although it only takes 5 mins to pull 4 pins, I already wish my bucket and pusher had QA when it will come time to move gravel......but not paid by the hour anymore here.

The big guys just seem to slip fit the pushers on the front of the bucket so they can drop them to load trucks.

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Just to get this thread back on the first page of my subscriptions, I'm gonna post some pics.
Not doing much right now on any of my projects.
Wrote off my truck last week and I'm on light duty only.
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Here is the engine that was in the machine when I bought it.
Insufficient in the first place, and seized up good when I got it.
I had no intention of even trying to fix it, so I sold it for something like $15.
The guy that came to buy it ended up taking a fancy to one of my tractors, and he bought that too.

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Once again, I was too hasty to get this thing fixed and didn't take ANY before pictures
I assure you the bucket looked horrible.
The bottom had rusted out and the "repair" was to just weld a new "plate" (or piece of tin) over top and not even cut out the old bottom.
Dirt tended to pack up between the two pieces.
This was unacceptable to me, so the second repair (after the engine swap) was to rebuild the bucket better.

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And again, sorry for no in process fabrication pictures.
When I get on a roll I don't stop for nothing.

I used 3 pieces of 3/16" plate to fix the bottom.
I didn't have one piece that was big enough.
The seams are over the pieces of flat bar on the bottom, fully welded and ground flat.
I also added some angle to reinforce the bottom edges and fully welded the cutting edge.
Also I cut off one of the flanges for the pins that was badly worn and made a new one that I welded on.

Turned out to be a 2 day job and took up a full weekend.

I ended up just spray bombing it black, haven't been able to find a paint that matches the yellow.

Anybody know what color this thing is?????

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What was that engine that came out GB. Looks like a PA power Fist?

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What was that engine that came out GB. Looks like a PA power Fist?
Bingo, Larry.
A 15 hp Power Fist Honda clone.

The guy who bought it opened it up and said water got in and rusted the cylinder. Not sure if he got it running or not.

The PO who installed it didn't get the belts lined up good enough.
The offset of the engine required him to do a little adjusting of the frame with a sledge hammer, and he still didn't get it right!

It kept chewing belts so he got discouraged and parked it.
The engine was in good condition, practically new, when he parked it.
It sat outside for a few years with a poorly designed exhaust and took on a bit of water.
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Bingo, Larry.
A 15 hp Power Fist Honda clone.

The guy who bought it opened it up and said water got in and rusted the cylinder. Not sure if he got it running or not.

The PO who installed it didn't get the belts lined up good enough.
The offset of the engine required him to do a little adjusting of the frame with a sledge hammer, and he still didn't get it right!

It kept chewing belts so he got discouraged and parked it.
The engine was in good condition, practically new, when he parked it.
It sat outside for a few years with a poorly designed exhaust and took on a bit of water.
Ah......... but if it wasn't for folks like that, we would never find the bargains that we do.

Kind of like the stump grinder I bought. When the cutters got dull, instead of just sharpening them, previous owner kept pounding away until it created cracks in the deck around the cutter shaft pillow bearings. Then gave up and sold it. Also didn't help that the factory only used 3/8" bolts to mount those bearings.

Bearings had 1/2" holes but factory deck drillings were only 3/8". I bumped it all up to 1/2" gr8 full shank and used gr8 flat washers as well.

Took me about 10 mins each to sharpen them, but even new, replacement cutters are only $22 each. Kind of makes you shake your head.

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