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post #31 of 39 Old 03-16-2019, 06:30 AM
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Gonna be a sad day next year when I have to install Win 10.
I thought the same thing when they updated to W10 at work, I've since changed my mind and went the W10 route at home also. Once you get familiar with the layout, it's much faster and easier. first thing I did with mine was disable all the 'phone home' settings.
I see you went with a SSD, same thing I did with an old Toshiba laptop I have at home. So old the newest OS it would run in W8.1 which it does 30-40% faster because of the SSD.
I had tried W10 on it but there was a lot of things there was no drivers for, wifi, usb etc so I went to W8.1.
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you all need to hear a hdd on line at 1 mil yes i said 1573000
darn they can sing
i have and it was a land line at that yes a phone line
used it for 4 hrs before i had to get off line
talk about fast loading


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Hi all, I'm thinking of upgrading the hard drive in my Dell E6400 I can get a new Western Digital 1 TB hard drive with Win 7 loaded ready to install for $85.00 free shipping or a solid state PNY 240 gig drive loaded with win 7 for $ 71.00 free shipping which one you all go for (I don't need 1 TB of space so the 240 gig would be enough)
This depends on what you expect. SSDs are fast, very fast. Compared to a spinning drive, they are blazingly fast. Some, older models for sure, have limits on write abilities. In other words, they don't like changing the data on them a lot. Some newer ones are much better on this but can still have problems if data is changed a lot. Spinning drives are slower but don't really care about changes. I've found that if a spinning drive lasts a couple years or so, they tend to last a long time. I'm assuming the computer is a laptop as well. If you want speed, SSDs are the way to go. As with anything tho, keep regular backups of important data.

I'm a Linux user. For you who don't like the changes in windows so much, may be something to look into. Linux changes to but at least it is gradual and easier to adjust too. I might add, it is a lot more secure than windows. I been running Linux for 16 years and never had a need for antivirus or other tools of that type. Everyone I know has had something hacked at some point but I've never had the problem here.
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Just agreeing with a few others. Solid State is the way to go. I live with my laptop at work and abuse it.
If you are purchasing a pre-loaded OS, note you are still going to have to load the drivers specific to your machine. It's not going to work out of the box unless you have an option to select your specific machine and have the drive pre-configured and even then, I wouldn't trust the drivers being up-to-date. You will need to load your favorite fill-in-the-blank anti-virus and run it before doing anything else, again, as others have already stated. I run malwarebytes on any new system. Install, update and then run and clean (delete, not quarantine anything found), then reboot and re-scan.

Good luck with whatever you select.
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Not to steal your thread, but I woke up this morning to a hard drive crash on my wife's Dell XPS 8300. I obviously need a new hard drive, but what about the operating system. Will Dell replace the OS Win 10. If not, I guess its time for a new computer, right? Advice please. Thanks
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Not to steal your thread, but I woke up this morning to a hard drive crash on my wife's Dell XPS 8300. I obviously need a new hard drive, but what about the operating system. Will Dell replace the OS Win 10. If not, I guess its time for a new computer, right? Advice please. Thanks
My neighbor ran into this a few years ago. If you didn't have a copy of widows in the box with your computer, most don't nowadays, call and order one. Make sure you have the model and serial number, order number or whatever to show it is one of their systems. That makes it so you are paying for a copy not a new version at full price. I think it costs around $15 or $20. Once you get the hard drive in, buy it from wherever you buy them, you can use the OS copy to reinstall.

Keep in mind, if you had no backups, your data is likely gone. I have large amounts of data here. I'm also a Linux user. I have a 160GB drive for my OS, a 6TB and a 3TB drive for my /home directory and a 8TB external SATA drive that I make backups too. I also have a 750GB drive that I back up OS install info and emails too. Point being, the more data you have, the more important backups are. If you have a digital photo camera and/or a movie camera, you really need those backed up somehow. For some reason, people never think about those things and their sentimental value. This is a list of my Volume Groups.

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[email protected] / # vgs
  VG     #PV #LV #SN Attr   VSize   VFree 
  Home2    2   1   0 wz--n-   8.19t     0 
  OS       1   3   0 wz--n- 124.46g 45.46g
  backup   1   1   0 wz--n- 698.63g     0 
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This is my backup drive.

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/dev/sdf1                  7.3T  4.2T  3.1T  58% /run/media/dale/8tb-backup
For those who don't know, when you first buy a computer, you should follow the instructions on creating a install CD/DVD. Some even put a blank CD/DVD in the box for this. It takes just a few minutes but it avoids you having to order one if your drive fails. While there is a copy on the rescue partition of the hard drive, if the drive fails, it doesn't work either.

On my Linux system, I use the SMART drive monitoring software to keep a eye on my drives. It actually emails me when a drive fails a test and is starting to fail. Most of the time, it gives enough time to recover the data on it. I'm pretty sure there is a way to do this on windows as well. Nowadays, all hard drives has this feature built in. I'm pretty sure SSDs have this too but not sure how well it works. You just need to install software to access it. It may be something to consider for anyone reading this.

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Thanks for your input. I downloaded a copy of Win10 from Microsoft onto a USB drive and booted that system from it., and then replaced' the OS. It worked well. Only problem is the new OS doesn't find any of my old data (pics, documents, etc.) BAD!!! Just to clarify, it is still the old HD. Evidently just a few sectors were bad, and the OS replacement corrected it. I WILL replace the HD, but does anyone have any advice how to get the old data ???
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Thanks for your input. I downloaded a copy of Win10 from Microsoft onto a USB drive and booted that system from it., and then replaced' the OS. It worked well. Only problem is the new OS doesn't find any of my old data (pics, documents, etc.) BAD!!! Just to clarify, it is still the old HD. Evidently just a few sectors were bad, and the OS replacement corrected it. I WILL replace the HD, but does anyone have any advice how to get the old data ???
In the "search" pane put in "windows.old"
On win7 it would save all your old stuff to that file name

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Thanks for your input. I downloaded a copy of Win10 from Microsoft onto a USB drive and booted that system from it., and then replaced' the OS. It worked well. Only problem is the new OS doesn't find any of my old data (pics, documents, etc.) BAD!!! Just to clarify, it is still the old HD. Evidently just a few sectors were bad, and the OS replacement corrected it. I WILL replace the HD, but does anyone have any advice how to get the old data ???
What I'm about to say depends on the type of failure so this might not apply. If you want the best chance to recover your data, you need to remove that drive and make sure it is not powered up at all. Once you get your new drive, then put it back online and try to recover the data. Sometimes, the longer the drive is ran, the more it fails and the more data can be lost. Again, this depends on the type of failure tho.

Since I'm a Linux user, I don't know a lot about windows. However, I can usually google well enough to find info for windows users since I know the hardware. When I work on a friends puter, I just bumble my way through the OS looking for the way to fix the hardware. Sometimes I google since I know what needs to be done but not sure how windows does it. Here is some links that may guide you. If you look further down, there are free tools. When you get back up and running, I'd make sure to use these tools and try to find one that alerts you to upcoming failures.

https://www.howtogeek.com/134735/how...rive-is-dying/

http://carlcheo.com/best-smart-monitoring-tools

https://howtorecover.me/best-program...attributes-hdd

I didn't read all of those links but when reading how they work, look for one that alerts you to failures. At least one of them should have that feature. Keep in mind tho, SMART doesn't always pick up mechanical failures such as a bearing going out or the spindle motor failing. It mostly monitors the media the data is stored on.

I hope those links help. Just keep in mind, the longer you run that drive, the more likely you are to end up with a complete failure. Once you get SMART installed, it should give you more info on what is failing. That should help figure out if you can run it until a new drive comes in or you need to remove it right away.
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