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post #1 of 13 Old 01-14-2013, 08:13 PM Thread Starter
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3000 Series Deck Stop On A 60" Deck

I have a 3206 with a 44" deck, and I use the deck stop feature to control my cutting height. The deck wheels are set about 1/2" higher.

I'm working on a 3235 that has a 60" deck. The manual doesn't say anything about not using the deck stop for that deck, but a guy that works at my local Cub Cadet dealer said the deck stop feature shouldn't be used with the 60" decks. He said the wheels have to support the deck when mowing.

I've never mowed grass with the 3235 (or a 60" deck for that matter), so I don't know how it acts either way. Any opinions on this?

Also, there were some problems with the 60" deck. As I was looking over the parts diagram to order the necessary parts to fix it, I noticed that according to the parts diagram, they updated the rear roller wheel adjustment knob assembly. The adjustment knob assembly that's on the deck now is almost identical to the deck stop knob assembly. It has an indent wheel to hold the knob adjustment in place. The newer knob assembly looks like it locks in place, therefore the adjustment can't drift down from vibration. Has anyone had their rear wheel adjustment move on them?

It seems to me that if I use the deck stop the keep the deck wheels off the ground, the rear wheel adjustment will have less tendency to drift, whereas if the deck it set to roll on the wheels, the older adjustment knob design may allow the knob to turn freely, therefore changing the front/rear level.
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Re: 3000 Series Deck Stop On A 60" Deck

I'm not sure about the newer cubs, but the older 60" habans are very heavy and are hard on the hangers if you don't let the wheels support it.

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Re: 3000 Series Deck Stop On A 60" Deck

I don't have personally own a 3000 Series with deck stop, but I do know that plenty of people have had problems with them. They aren't a particularly strong setup.

Neither are the deck's rear rollers, unfortunately.

The deck is designed to be used in the ground-following mode, with the rollers and gauge wheels supporting the weight of the deck, but you can also use the lift to keep it at a set height. It is a heavy deck, I don't know if I'd feel comfortable letting the deck lift system hold up its weight full-time. The 54" that was previously on my 3205 definitely beat up the hangers and the deck brackets from the weight. The 44" I use now is quite a bit lighter, but all the 3K Series decks are pretty heavy.

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Re: 3000 Series Deck Stop On A 60" Deck

You guys aren't kidding about the weight. I take my 44" off when I'm going to use the tractor for something other than mowing (which is pretty often), so I'm well aware of the weight of it. I thought the 44" was heavy...until I started working on the 60". Jeez, what a difference, the 60" is one heavy SOB.

My hangers/brackets are in good shape. You guys answered my question when you say bigger decks beat them up. I'll set the 60" up for ground following and won't use the deck stop. Thanks for the info.

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Re: 3000 Series Deck Stop On A 60" Deck

If you're gonna rely on the deck rollers to support the weight, be mindful that the rears don't last long. They don't have any grease-able bearings (or bearings at all, for that matter) and they can be chewed pretty quickly. They make a beautiful stripe cut when they're in good shape, though.

I came across a guy on another forum this fall who, when we got on this topic, mentioned that he had fixed the issue for good by modifying the existing setup. Here's some pics from that post.
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Re: 3000 Series Deck Stop On A 60" Deck

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I came across a guy on another forum this fall who, when we got on this topic, mentioned that he had fixed the issue for good by modifying the existing setup. Here's some pics from that post.
Did he post the bearing specs?
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Re: 3000 Series Deck Stop On A 60" Deck

Just talked to Todd, user "Oak" on OCC:

"Justin,

The bearings I used were the brand Nice and their part # is 3038FDCTNTG18 I think the McMaster-Carr # is 6384k374 it is a flange type bearing. The bearings are the most money in the project. You will need 2 for each roller at about $15 a piece.

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The rubber hose may not be needed and it isn't cheap but maybe you can find something else that would work. The GoodYear part # is 56038
Here is a cheap one if it is the same http://www.ebay.com/itm/GOODYEAR-560...#ht_992wt_1161

I purchased a new shaft at a hardware store for about $20.

The roller is a little taller then the original but it works great so far. Good luck!"

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Re: 3000 Series Deck Stop On A 60" Deck

Ok, now you guys are just showing off. You're using your vast knowledge and resources to make me spend money.....and I'm in!

I bought a beat up 48" deck for my 3206 specifically because I wanted to have the rear rollers that my 44" doesn't have. The 44" cuts fine, but I'd like to have the stripes that the rollers on a 48" will lay down.

I'm not going to do a bearing mod on the 60", it isn't mine, but I'll use the info when I rebuild the 48" deck.

The 48" deck I bought is pretty rough. I'll attach a pic of it to this post. I plan on sand blasting and repainting it, and then replacing whatever parts are needed to make it new again.

jsoluna, I respectfully disagree with you about the rear rollers not having bearings, attached is a close up pick of the 60" deck (291) I'm currently working on that does in fact have bearing on the rear rollers. I haven't looked at the rear rollers on the 48" deck yet, so I don't know if that has bearings or not.
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Re: 3000 Series Deck Stop On A 60" Deck

You're correct, I should have been more specific. They're "bearings" technically but they're more like bushings, and definitely not designed to handle the weight of these decks for an extended period of time.

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Re: 3000 Series Deck Stop On A 60" Deck

Some of the decks used a nylon bushing there, too which is even less effective. These rollers trashed themselves and eventually the entire support axle for the deck, they're from the 54 that came with the 3205. Middle pic is of the best roller out of the three, first is the worst (obviously!)...






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Thanks for politely correcting me. After re-reading your post I see that you said 'bearings', and I disagreed and showed that it has 'bushings' (but said bearings). I know the difference between the two, I just misread what you said.

There is a little slop in the rear rollers on the 60" (both bushing wear and roller wear), but not enough to be addressed right now. I'm already pushing it with the amount of money I've spent on parts, I have to pick and choose the priorities. I'll check them again in the Fall and then decide if money needs to be spent on replacing anything.
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I understand having to pick and choose repairs for sure. At least you know now what to look for on those decks.

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Re: 3000 Series Deck Stop On A 60" Deck

I'm looking for a 54" deck or maybe buy a new shell for mine. But I do really like that roller setup and whether I buy used or rebuild mine, I think those rollers are in my future...

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