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post #76 of 150 Old 02-24-2019, 01:23 AM
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Do a search for SAE 3, 4 and 5 housing bolt patterns, they are all per the SAE std, and then just compare to your housing.

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On the cummins...find a rusted out dodge pickup from that era in the northern portion of our lower 48. It is guaranteed to be rusted. Road trip up to your place to extract the engine and scrap the truck.
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There is a place in Foxboro MA that has tons of used engines for industrial applications and trucks,generators,etc..once you determine what the bell housing pattern is,you may be able to come up with something suitable from a place like that..
Shipping costs would be a deal killer though probably,especially with a border crossing involved..

I've seen quite a few tractors re-powered with old school small block chevy engines around here..one of those would be much cheaper to get,and have a custom bell housing adapter made for it..you'd probably have to adapt a belt driven govenor to it to make it like it was with the original engine..

A few old front end loaders I've seen with the engines in the rear,had a 350 chevy with a 4 speed manual transmission out of a 2wd truck mounted where the original diesel was,and they used a short u-joint coupling to attach the transmission output shaft to the existing torque converter on the loaders transmission..a local salvage yard uses it,and its been around a long long time..


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post #79 of 150 Old 02-25-2019, 10:38 PM Thread Starter
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Some great advice and insights from everyone, thanks.
As I've been doing some more research on 4BT engines which seem to be pretty hard to find anywhere in Alberta, has anyone come across these guys https://www.4btengines.com/
They seem to be able to supply exactly what I'm after - a drop in ready engine - new or remanufactured

interested in thoughts while I wait to hear if they can export to Canada...……………..

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Jasper is a great company to deal with and have great service and reputation. https://www.jasperengines.com/diesel-engine-formats

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I was trying to find you an engine... Years ago someone posted on this forum
about a LARGE China tractor that broke in half. I can't find the post. Maybe
someone else here can help find it. It might be a good engine for you.


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It was an Iseki. Thread was titled “Iseki (eye-see-kee) tractor nightmare.”

There was another one called “Help! I broke my tractor in half!”

I believe both threads were locked due to brand bashing, and may have since been deleted.
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This person/entity is selling several engines here in Alberta.

Don't know how close it is to you, or if any of the engines has the right bolt pattern for you, or if the engines are any good...

https://www.kijiji.ca/o-profile/36748210/1
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thanks again all, bit too cold to do anything on the tractor at the moment, we just broke a 40year old record for the coldest February and Feb 2019 is now listed at number 5 on the all time coldest since records began, Only -36C with the windchill this morning...……….

Dave_r - thanks bud, will have a look

How do you break a tractor in half? Hopefully I'll never find out...…..
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How do you break a tractor in half? Hopefully I'll never find out...…..
Here's how my Dads old tractor got broke in half. The county had one of their tractors stuck. They borrowed my Dads tractor to pull it out. Keep in mind, county tractors are pretty large since they sometimes run several bush hogs at a time. They hooked the chain around the front axle since it was closer and started to pull backwards. My Dads tractor was only a 35HP model but it was geared down low so it had some pulling power, all be it slow moving. Keep in mind, the motor and transmission of tractors are the frame and it only takes one weak spot. The weak spot on my Dads tractor was where the engine and transmission were connected and that is where it broke.

My Dad being who he is, he got a new clutch kit, put it on, put the tractor back together and wielded it. Given the only minor use it received, that clutch would last for a very long time. It was still in there when it was sold over two decades later.

Lesson to learn, even if you have to pull something backwards, run the chain under the tractor and attach to the rear axle or something designed to be hooked too. Never hook to the front axle unless you want to find that weak spot and break something.

I'm sure there are other ways to break a tractor in half but this is one that is known to work, from experience sadly.
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hey Dalek - that sounds messy and thanks for sharing
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hey Dalek - that sounds messy and thanks for sharing
I was very young and don't remember it first hand but I did use that tractor when I was older and heard the stories about it. One reason for posting, I'd rather someone learn not to pull from the front axle by reading it than to learn when it is tested and that weak spot is found. Tractors are not cheap so any lesson that is learned the hard way is a expensive one. If this saves just one or two people some grief, it was worth the time and effort to post about it.

I guess if a person has a 4WD tractor, it wouldn't matter as much but I still wouldn't test the theory. BTW, it was a John Deer 435 with a Detroit diesel engine. I've read those old engines are very good. I think the tractor was built back in the 60's or so. Honestly, I wish I still had that old tractor.
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https://bemidji.craigslist.org/for/d...821604297.html

Here's a rebuilt Perkins 4 cyl with 68hp. Northern MN USA. I thought you mentioned once that those Foton motors were a Perkins copy. Not sure if that helps, but there it is.
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Thanks bud, need more power though, up to 140hp, may have a line on a new 4BT from the US, will keep the thread posted 😁
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Very interesting thread PnP. I always try to buy American, but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. I'm not a rich man, so I always try to get the best deal like you are doing. A few years back, I realized the halogen lamps in my 5th wheel camper were pulling enough current to burn the connections at the switch. I decided I needed LED lamp replacements. Buying American made would have cost me more than $250.00. I bought off of Ebay direct from China and paid about $30.00. I just couldn't pass that up.

Wishing you the best on this project and hope an engine suddenly becomes available real cheap!

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