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post #1 of 15 Old 09-11-2019, 12:39 PM Thread Starter
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Trouble finding discontinued Legacy part

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I have a 25hp Legacy with a 60" mower deck. The lift arm that raises/lowers the deck is failing. Both sides had cracks that I was watching, and it has progressed to the point where both sides are now bent. It looks like when I raise the deck it smashes into the transmission filter. Unfortunately, the part is discontinued and I haven't had any luck with any of my local dealers, online suppliers, or Simplicity itself. I don't see any recent listings for part-outs on here, eBay, or craigslist. Any suggestions? The part number is 1716274ASM aka 1716274SM. I believe it's the same for several models, so hopefully I can find something. Thanks!
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Re: Trouble finding discontinued Legacy part

Just for the heck of it, try calling Small Engine Parts Warehouse 1-800-236-2333.

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One will probably show up for sale, but when...? Have you contacted Joes Outdoor Power ?

Looks like you could take the rockshaft off and have it welded/reinforced? One of mine (on a Sunstar) broke and welding was the best solution for that one.
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Try this: https://sleequipment.com/snapper-gen...-asmy-mou.html

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That looks like a candidate for welding the cracks, then maybe welding some braces to make it a bit stronger, and then it'll last a good long time.

And I'd replace that oil filter after fixing the parts...
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Just for the heck of it, try calling Small Engine Parts Warehouse 1-800-236-2333.
Thanks. I had searched their website without success but I will try calling anyway if there's a chance.

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One will probably show up for sale, but when...? Have you contacted Joes Outdoor Power ?
I had not tried that website yet, I will reach out to them too thanks!

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Looks like you could take the rockshaft off and have it welded/reinforced? One of mine (on a Sunstar) broke and welding was the best solution for that one.
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That looks like a candidate for welding the cracks, then maybe welding some braces to make it a bit stronger, and then it'll last a good long time.
Bringing it to a local welding shop was going to be my next step, glad to hear it looks promising. Hopefully they will be able to come up with something that will work.

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And I'd replace that oil filter after fixing the parts...
Yep, that's the plan. I was looking at it today and I don't think the bent arm is what is hitting it, it's the deck itself because it's coming up higher than it should. It's not leaking but it's not supposed to look like that..

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Not sure why you are suggesting that.. that appears to be a totally different part, unrelated to what I need?

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I copied the part number from your post but clearly something went wrong. Sorry

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I was not successful finding the lift arm through any of the suggestions above or the dozens of other suppliers I tried, so a local welding shop is going to repair it for me. Once I removed it from the tractor I could see how malformed it really was.. see the pic below, both sides are supposed to be straight, perpendicular with the shaft!

Also discovered that it bent the rod controlling forward/reverse acceleration, and that part (1715841SM) is also discontinued and becoming impossible to find. Not sure how I'm going to handle that other than trying to bend it back to the proper angle, which I will have to guess at.
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You are probably better off to not get a new one-it appears to me that the thickness of the metal they used makes those arms prone to bend. Your welder should be able to repair the rockshaft to better-than-new.

I only checked one site (SEPW.com), but that rod was listed as available for purchase ($15.75). https://www.sepw.com/parts-lookup?ar.../1715841SM/1/y
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You are probably better off to not get a new one-it appears to me that the thickness of the metal they used makes those arms prone to bend. Your welder should be able to repair the rockshaft to better-than-new.

I only checked one site (SEPW.com), but that rod was listed as available for purchase ($15.75). https://www.sepw.com/parts-lookup?ar.../1715841SM/1/y
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My local welding shop took care of the rockshaft for me, it was triple the cost of the part but I had no options.. and I'm sure their version will be an upgrade.

I tried ordering that rod from SEPW but unfortunately like my previous order with them, it showed in stock but 8 days after I ordered, they informed me it was not available. I'm still searching. If anyone could share a pic of their rod, perhaps I could try to duplicate the proper bend angles. The repair manual does not show much detail.

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Re: Trouble finding discontinued Legacy part

That's wild! I have never seen one bend or break. Why the heck is the deck chains pulling the arms inward? Something in the setup must not be right. They should raise straight upward on the deck.
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That's wild! I have never seen one bend or break. Why the heck is the deck chains pulling the arms inward? Something in the setup must not be right. They should raise straight upward on the deck.
Tell me about it! Not sure what the cause was, but that was the end result. The throttle rod it bent has been difficult to repair. Attached is a pic of the newly fabricated shaft, which is far beefier.. if these bend, there is a real problem!
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That sure is a beefier replacement! Allow me to double-down on Mr. Green's advice: You had better put a close eye under that tractor. Whatever you have 'fixed' with that beefier set-up is just going to transfer those stresses further down the line. It took quite a bit of force to bend them that bad. They won't bend anymore, but you better be plenty concerned what is going to start bending instead. BTW, have you seen anyone else with a similar problem on this or any other site? For those reasons, Mr. Green is on to something, I believe. You've cured a symptom, now you have to find the ailment. Good Luck!!
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That sure is a beefier replacement! Allow me to double-down on Mr. Green's advice: You had better put a close eye under that tractor. Whatever you have 'fixed' with that beefier set-up is just going to transfer those stresses further down the line. It took quite a bit of force to bend them that bad. They won't bend anymore, but you better be plenty concerned what is going to start bending instead. BTW, have you seen anyone else with a similar problem on this or any other site? For those reasons, Mr. Green is on to something, I believe. You've cured a symptom, now you have to find the ailment. Good Luck!!
When I bought it in 2015, I noticed very early signs of failure where those arms eventually bent significantly and the transmission filter had slight wear marks on it. There were hairline cracks so I made a mental note to keep an eye on it. When mounting the mower deck this past spring, I noticed they had bent slightly (nowhere near the final result), so I choked up on the chains one link to try keeping the deck in alignment. I'm wondering if that resulted in the deck getting pulled too high, forcing the slightly bent arms to hit something on the frame every time I raised it -- until they became so worn that they eventually just gave up. The dent on the filter was nowhere near that significant at the start of this season.

Almost done with the mower deck for this year, but I will be keeping a close eye on it moving forward. I did a lot of searching about it, and never found anyone with a similar issue. The original part certainly wasn't flimsy.
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[QUOTE=mikejeep;12359297]When I bought it in 2015, I noticed very early signs of failure where those arms eventually bent significantly and the transmission filter had slight wear marks on it. There were hairline cracks so I made a mental note to keep an eye on it. When mounting the mower deck this past spring, I noticed they had bent slightly (nowhere near the final result), so I choked up on the chains one link to try keeping the deck in alignment. I'm wondering if that resulted in the deck getting pulled too high, forcing the slightly bent arms to hit something on the frame every time I raised it -- until they became so worn that they eventually just gave up. The dent on the filter was nowhere near that significant at the start of this season.
After reviewing all pictures, it seems that something is stopping the deck from going as high as the arms are capable of lifting. Or is there a stop-bolt or limiter that will stop the arms from raising past the point of damage? Look for signs of contact on top of the deck. I'm just guessing, Best of Luck.
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