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post #1 of 18 Old 04-08-2019, 06:20 PM Thread Starter
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Creative mower transportation.

Hey guys. A while ago I bought an older 4211 to use at my camp/island house. As you can see, getting equipment to the island is a challenge. Its about a 20 minute boat ride at regular speed so it took a while with the Simplicity on board. It was for this reason that I wanted an old simpicity. I didn't want one of the new throw away mowers. I wanted something that would last a long time. I really just figured y'all would get a kick out of these pics. The theme of the day was "What could possibly go wrong?"



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Heh, heh, that looks like fun. The wife loves it when I do stuff like that. Congrats on getting it there safe and on the cool tractor.

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Necessity is the mother of invention! Congrats on some ingenuity!

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Couple of questions...what are you using it for without a deck? How did you get it off the dock with such a narrow plank? I do like the ingenuity as noted in an earlier post! Perfect sized boat for that too! (Celebrity Andretti 26' 454/468 500hp here)


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Yikes! Not sure I would have risked that - - the boat's CG is just too high in that scenario. Glad it worked out okay for you, though.

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Is the CG really too high. That's basically 2 big guys, or 3 medium guys standing up behind the driver. For a boat like that, it is unlikely that doing that (all standing up at once) would cause a significant problem. And with a tractor that's secured over the center of the boat, it's less of a problem as it's not moving, and if it becomes unsecured and goes to one side, it's likely going off the boat before the boat capsizes.
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Is the CG really too high. That's basically 2 big guys, or 3 medium guys standing up behind the driver. For a boat like that, it is unlikely that doing that (all standing up at once) would cause a significant problem. And with a tractor that's secured over the center of the boat, it's less of a problem as it's not moving, and if it becomes unsecured and goes to one side, it's likely going off the boat before the boat capsizes.
Unfortunately, it doesn't work like that.

It's too involved to go into here, but in brief carrying a significant load at the height raised above deck alters the CG of the boat significantly. Because boats move through a dynamic medium (water), they experience multiple degrees of freedom of movement (roll, pitch, yaw, and heave) sometimes simultaneously. The higher CG will more readily and dramatically shift outward under certain circumstances, and if it moves past the hull's center of buoyancy the vessel will become highly unstable and possibly capsize. This would happen in a blink.

He didn't give boat details, but it looks like an ETEC 90 HP engine (maybe?) which suggests to me it's a fairly light 16-18' hull with about a 7.5-8' beam. That size boat doesn't have a lot of room for error when raising the CG up like that.

Again, I'm glad the OP made it safely. But I don't recommend attempting that, certainly not in anything but the calmest conditions, and not with any passengers who could move about and trigger dynamic instability.




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Heh, heh, that looks like fun. The wife loves it when I do stuff like that. Congrats on getting it there safe and on the cool tractor.
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Hey guys. A while ago I bought an older 4211 to use at my camp/island house. As you can see, getting equipment to the island is a challenge. Its about a 20 minute boat ride at regular speed so it took a while with the Simplicity on board. It was for this reason that I wanted an old simpicity. I didn't want one of the new throw away mowers. I wanted something that would last a long time. I really just figured y'all would get a kick out of these pics. The theme of the day was "What could possibly go wrong?"



that was quite a boat ride.. I see u had the deck off for the ride & a ratchet strap over the mower.. the question is did u have the planks anchored to the boat..


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I guess they don't make trailers for boats.
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I guess they don't make trailers for boats.
we have in our town a place that makes trailers for boats.. they r used when u take the boat on the road.. that place has made over a million trailers.. BUT they don't float on water..


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Craftsman GT 6000.. CC 70.. CC 100.. CC 129..
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home built log spliter 4x24 ram.. 20hp.. 11 seconds per cycle..

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On our lake they use pontoons for jobs like that.
Glad you had no excitement.

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I guess they don't make trailers for boats.
The proper name for a trailer that is towed by a boat is "barge".
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The proper name for a trailer that is towed by a boat is "barge".
a barge is not towed.. it is pushed up our rivers..


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a barge is not towed.. it is pushed up our rivers..
From what I've seen, they are either pushed or pulled, or even both if necessary.

google "barges", click on images, and you'll see them both pushed and pulled.
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