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Sticks-small sticks

I am seriously thinking about getting the snowblower off and getting the mower deck on this week. No snow in the forcast for MN.
Anyone ever use their bagger to suck up small sticks after winter?
I would like to do so BEFORE the grass starts growing, thinking of getting the deck down low and dirty to pick stuff up.
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It beats the heck out of your blades, deck...I bet it wouldn't do your bagger much good either.
That said, I have done it with leaves in the fall, no bagger, just blow into rows and rake up

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I pick up grass and leaves also with one Gator blade and the high lift blade all summer. I am so impressed with the suction I had to throw it out there.

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Michigan is just as far north as Minnesota......if you remove your snow blower we are both going to be dealing with SNOW in april
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A pull behind lawn sweeper does a really good job for that; I used a 42" Craftsman to pick up twigs & small limbs prior to mowing this past weekend. Good luck.
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A pull behind lawn sweeper does a really good job for that; I used a 42" Craftsman to pick up twigs & small limbs prior to mowing this past weekend. Good luck.
My neighbor uses a pull behind sweeper too and seems to do well. I have leaves to pick up too and the Cyclone Rake does a great job picking up small sticks with the leaves, first Ive got to get rid of the white stuff on top of it.
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Heck I'm in Ohio and my sad looking snow fence is still up for that same reason 😆

I take it down I'm getting snow
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Took my blower off yesterday, guess we are all doomed.....

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Today 66 degrees..........Saturday, high of 38......

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I wish there was an easier way to get small twigs, sticks, pine cones, and acorns up. I always use a hand rake on the whole yard. It takes about 8 hours. Rake them in piles. Load it in recycle bins for county pickups. The tractor won't suck them up. It will bust them up into smaller pieces , just makes more work for me. I rather go ahead and use hand rake.

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I've had great luck with second hand tow behind sweepers. They work great. For someone with a machine suited for a Sweepster, those babies clean EVERYTHING up. You just need to be ready for a pickup bed size pile of thatch that it brings out of the lawn as well.
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I have 11 pecan trees which are sometimes known as "dirty trees" since they constantly drop small twigs and branches year round. I use one of the spring tine dethatchers like one can get at AgriFab and other along with a lawn sweeper. The dethatcher separates the small twigs from the grass and brings them further on top where the lawn sweeper can pick them up easier. Have been contemplating purchasing one of the acreage rakes that uses spring tines on wheels to gather the lawn debris into windrows to also make the lawn sweeper perform better. The acreage rakes are a smaller version of what farmers use to make the hay windrows for the balers. I've found them at Northern Tool and other places.
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I wish there was an easier way to get small twigs, sticks, pine cones, and acorns up. I always use a hand rake on the whole yard. It takes about 8 hours. Rake them in piles. Load it in recycle bins for county pickups. The tractor won't suck them up. It will bust them up into smaller pieces , just makes more work for me. I rather go ahead and use hand rake.
See if you can find a Cyclone Rake user in your area to get a demo. If you go on their website, they can get you in touch with someone. Their videos are very accurate, they are worth watching.

The smaller the deck they are attached to, the better they work. You will be amazed at what they will pick up. I don't even bother picking up much that's less than an 1" in diameter, pine cones, pine needles, leaves. My neighbor had blown leaves from in front of his house last fall. I had picked up leaves at some widows & widower on the street and saw him in his front yard so I stopped in to help him, single law enforcement dad. I raised the deck and drove over the 18" pile and sucked up everything each pass, but it filled the trailer pretty quick. He couldn't believe how easy it made it look. I'm a believer in my Cyclone Rake Commander on my X738 54" deck for sure. I found mine used, 1 year old on Craigslist. Guy had moved from home with lots of trees, to a home with nearly none. I used it on my Scotts L17.542 for several years until I got my X738, but wet/damp leaves in the trailer will pull the back of the tractor around sideways.

I ran my friend's Z10 Cyclone Rake too with his Cub Cadet 54" until he got his Kubota BX2380 54" deck and had the same results, just more leaves. Z10 Cyclone Rake is one of their largest units. You will need a decent tractor to hook one to if you have any slopes. Otherwise the weight of wet/damp leaves will pull the back of the tractor around sideways. He lives in an Oak woods, so he gets lots of leaves. Cleanup around the house and plants is pretty easy too with their long estate hose/wand. Only thing you have to find is someone to drive the tractor around while you suck things up with the wand rather than getting ON-OFF-ON-OFF.... Makes it go quick. Good thing to teach the grandkids how to drive the tractor, but they won't find it very exciting.

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See if you can find a Cyclone Rake user in your area to get a demo. If you go on their website, they can get you in touch with someone. Their videos are very accurate, they are worth watching.

The smaller the deck they are attached to, the better they work. You will be amazed at what they will pick up. I don't even bother picking up much that's less than an 1" in diameter, pine cones, pine needles, leaves. My neighbor had blown leaves from in front of his house last fall. I had picked up leaves at some widows & widower on the street and saw him in his front yard so I stopped in to help him, single law enforcement dad. I raised the deck and drove over the 18" pile and sucked up everything each pass, but it filled the trailer pretty quick. He couldn't believe how easy it made it look. I'm a believer in my Cyclone Rake Commander on my X738 54" deck for sure. I found mine used, 1 year old on Craigslist. Guy had moved from home with lots of trees, to a home with nearly none. I used it on my Scotts L17.542 for several years until I got my X738, but wet/damp leaves in the trailer will pull the back of the tractor around sideways.

I ran my friend's Z10 Cyclone Rake too with his Cub Cadet 54" until he got his Kubota BX2380 54" deck and had the same results, just more leaves. Z10 Cyclone Rake is one of their largest units. You will need a decent tractor to hook one to if you have any slopes. Otherwise the weight of wet/damp leaves will pull the back of the tractor around sideways. He lives in an Oak woods, so he gets lots of leaves. Cleanup around the house and plants is pretty easy too with their long estate hose/wand. Only thing you have to find is someone to drive the tractor around while you suck things up with the wand rather than getting ON-OFF-ON-OFF.... Makes it go quick. Good thing to teach the grandkids how to drive the tractor, but they won't find it very exciting.
That's good you are helping others. I'm sure in your situation it works fine for you but for me I don't think so.

I don't want the cyclone rake even if was given to me for free. Using it in my situation would be double work.

Where do you dump out the contents? I have no place in my yard. I wonder if anyone on their website has asked that question.

Its a second motor I have to start, run, and maintain whenever I do my leaf cleanup. I don't want that.

I'm basically out of storage space between a two car garage and 200 sq. ft. shed.

The cost is the same cost of a new tractor.

They advertise for leaves, acorns and pine needles only. They don't advertise it as a twigs or sticks that gets sucked up through the hose and through the propeller. Twigs and sticks will always have to be raked up.

I won't even use it for just picking up leaves, acorns and pine needles because its double work emptying it out and putting the chopped up material in a recycle container. It would be spilling all over the place trying to get the contents in the recycle container.

When I do my leaf clean up I mulch the leaves first, then suck them up with the bagger, then empty them in large recycle containers that the county government picks up weekly. But prior to that I have to clean out the twigs and sticks otherwise they will cause a flat, mess up the blades, or get jammed up where the belts and pulleys are.

I only have a half acre that's nicely landscaped in a residential neighborhood. Its hard enough trying to maneuver the tractor around all the mulch areas. I use to use a walk behind.

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That's good you are helping others. I'm sure in your situation it works fine for you but for me I don't think so.

I don't want the cyclone rake even if was given to me for free. Using it in my situation would be double work.

Where do you dump out the contents? I have no place in my yard. I wonder if anyone on their website has asked that question.

Its a second motor I have to start, run, and maintain whenever I do my leaf cleanup. I don't want that.

I'm basically out of storage space between a two car garage and 200 sq. ft. shed.

The cost is the same cost of a new tractor.

They advertise for leaves, acorns and pine needles only. They don't advertise it as a twigs or sticks that gets sucked up through the hose and through the propeller. Twigs and sticks will always have to be raked up.

I won't even use it for just picking up leaves, acorns and pine needles because its double work emptying it out and putting the chopped up material in a recycle container. It would be spilling all over the place trying to get the contents in the recycle container.

When I do my leaf clean up I mulch the leaves first, then suck them up with the bagger, then empty them in large recycle containers that the county government picks up weekly. But prior to that I have to clean out the twigs and sticks otherwise they will cause a flat, mess up the blades, or get jammed up where the belts and pulleys are.

I only have a half acre that's nicely landscaped in a residential neighborhood. Its hard enough trying to maneuver the tractor around all the mulch areas. I use to use a walk behind.
Good perspective, but not everyone has a county government pick up service. There are some places that will take it for compost. When I filled both bags each pass across a 100 lot and had to drive to the back of the house to empty them, over 22 bags full on one lot (most times 3 or 4 times), not to mention the climbing on and off the tractor. I decided there had to be a better way, but each situation has its own solution.

As for double work - you mulch, you bag, you empty into large recycle containers. ??? If you put twice the hours on your tractor, you might want to consider the cost of wearing it out faster. The cost of a second tractor?

Ive heard some people put containers inside their lawn vac so they just take the containers out when they are full.

If you are out of space, thats valid. Extra space costs too if it is even possible. They at least tried to address this issue by making it come apart easily, even though I like to leave it together so I dont have to lift the engine-blower unit.

As for extra maintenance, its reasonable to consider. I change the oil, put gas in, pull the cord to start it. Ill likely change the plug and air filter soon.

Good for people to see all the aspects.

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