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post #1 of 10 Old 03-23-2019, 11:53 PM Thread Starter
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Need A New Engine but Which One?

I have a Broadmoor 1693352, 14HP B&S Vanguard engine. Last summer I lost a cylinder and had to get it repaired. $700 later, it was back and doing okay. Now this past winter as I was snow blowing with it, the other cylinder went. At this point I'm just going to buy a new engine. The engine that's in there now is model number 294777-1181-E1. But the parts manual lists a new engine as part number 305777. That part number is for a 16HP Vanguard, not a 14. I don't mind having a 16HP engine and actually like the idea but when I looked up the the number I found two different engines. One is a 305777-0128-R3 and another is 305777-3032-G1. Now I can't find what the difference is between these engines except there is about a $400 price difference between the two. Which one do I need for this particular mower? I want a direct replacement that will bolt right in. Will both bolt in and work without major modifications? Thanks.
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$400 difference for the same spec motor, means (at least to me) that the more expensive one has a gear-reduction do-hickey bolted to the side of the engine. Your mower is unlikely to require it.

As for the other engine, I would measure the engine crankshaft diameter, length from the crankcase, size of the key and what kind of bolt goes in the end, and then make sure the new engine has the same specs. Or you find the specs online for both engines, or even chat with someone from B&S to make sure you get the right engine...
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Re: Need A New Engine but Which One?

They usually charge more for a horizontal shaft motor than a vertical shaft. I would imagine that is the cost difference.

*EDIT* Hmmm...after further research, both are vertical. I guess take your pick. The 1st one you listed is $795 according to Google. I would probably find a used tractor for half that and just swap motors. But I'm also poor, so...

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Re: Need A New Engine but Which One?

Call smallenginewarehouse.com and speak to someone (800-321-6725) I think the difference may be for an engine with and without a charging system
I have the same tractor and engine, and fear that it will blow some day...what happened with yours? What specifically blew on you? was it $700 parts and labor?...or did you do the labor? ...How many hours did you have on it when it started giving you trouble?
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I tried looking up the direct replacement for your engine but the numbers you supplied don't work. Does one of the 305777's come complete with muffler?
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If you can do the work yourself, you might get by a bit cheaper buying a short block and installing it.

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I guess I'll close this thread. I ended up buying the 305777-3032-G1. The difference between the two is that the one I got has a higher charging rate but both engines were direct replacement. My Simplicity has an electric PTO and this requires more charging or the battery goes dead while mowing. I ordered it from Arlington Power Equipment because they had the lowest price on this particular engine. Their website says engines are foam packaged but mine wasn't. It was in a big B&S box and was tumbling around in it. It had a few dents on it. I found out B&S doesn't put any threads in the mounting holes so I needed to tap them. That was really the only surprise. Things went together without any issues and it runs beautifully. The first mowing will tell me how the engine is. Now, what do I do with a removed engine?
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Re: Need A New Engine but Which One?

I can't believe it was just in the box without foam.

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I can't believe it was just in the box without foam.
Me either. UPS delivered it and the guy used a dolly and wheeled it right into the shop. The box didn't have any damage to it so I didn't even think about checking it. The next day I went to move the box and I felt the engine thump over to the low side of the box. That was my first clue. Once I got the box cut away, I could see the engine was sitting on a flimsy wood base. It wasn't attached to it but just sitting on it. There was a couple small dents on the housing but nothing that affected its operation. Because their price was quite a bit lower than anyone else, I would buy from there again. But, I'd certainly make my expectations very clear about packaging.
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I just sent a message to Arlington letting them know about the lack of shipping material. If they respond I'll post it.
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