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post #106 of 118 Old 02-11-2018, 01:43 PM
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Re: A Conquest, a Prestige and a Dealer

Yes, it is the 27/52 EFI. 2018. It had just come in as a demo for this year and the dealer gave me a good price break since he had a price break on his end. So, I was the first to demo it, twice:-) I am waiting to take delivery since we are still in Winter here in So. Indiana. Ice all over the trees last night and today!! Im thrilled with the features and prospects of the machine. I've been looking and comparing since last Nov. This forum has been very helpful. I even told my dealer to read this thread. It might be his biggest sales pitch! LOL And he did. This man has been working on, selling, and owning a business for 40 years. He knows all the mowers inside and out. That was one tremendous selling factor. He even took the time to come out and assess my yard as to whether I could use a ZTR or another best option. Then said, if you don't choose the Simplicity Prestige, no hard feelings, but get a JD. That was from a mechanics view point.

And yes, even if I take delivery before any rebates come out, he will honor them. So, for those who have stressed "dealerships" as a prime factor-thanks!

Can't remember, did you keep your turf tires? I'm inclined to, but I do have one steep hill/embankment(100'x30'x30'high) that I would like to mow in different directions. Hills hold water. So, batting the idea of a more aggressive rear tire. Perhaps the ACT and diff lock would be enough on those damp days with turf tires. But, considering swapping/upgrading them out before they get used.
Thanks again for your opinions with actual usage. Invaluable!
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The Super Turfs that come on your tractor actually grip very well. Since you have a hill, you absolutely need to fill the rear tires with rim guard and then add 50 pound cast iron wheel weights. The difference in stability and traction is huge. Without these, my tires would slip slightly at the ditch line. With the added weight, I have no issues whatsoever. I am also considering filling the front tires. with all of the added weight in the rear tires, the ride also got better. It's almost as if the tires are more grounded allowing the suspension to do its job better. My tractor came with the suspension at the softest settings. I'm a bigger guy, and it felt a little strange when accelerating with the light settings. I dialed all four corners into the heaviest settings, and now the tractor feels much more solid, but with the wheel weights and ballast, it rides very smoothly. On the front, I have the added weight of the Johnny bucket subframe, which adds probably 40 or 50 lb. that also seems to help a bit.

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I got my cast iron wheel weights on Craigslist. I paid about a dollar and a quarter per pound. They were not in very good shape, so I sandblasted them Prime them and paint them the same color as my prestige. When I first filled the rear tires on my Conquest, it was over $60 for the pair. When I bought the prestige and had them filled, the price of dropped to just over $40 including metal valve stems. The liquid Phil can eat away the water based glue in rubber valve stems, so you need to get metal ones that use a different type of glue

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Thanks for the info. I'm about 180 lbs. I'll have the suspension dialed to the middle. I have no ditch before starting the climb. From a smooth slanted street curb and up. Should be good when cutting on angles. I'll check with the dealer this week about rim guard. The JD salesman was negative on rim guard when I asked about it.??? I think if you are that much heavier than me and notice the overall improved ride and stability, I better take note:-)
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Thanks Ilovetomow! Encouraging words. Funny how that little RIO switch was a pain and kind of the straw that broke the camel's back. Not to mention the better, or different qualities on the Simplicity.
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Just search for Rimguard here on the site...only negative is price, but to me, $20-30 to put 75 pounds in each tire is much cheaper than paying $40-50 for each 42 pound suitcase weight.

Look at it this way...your tractor's center of gravity is most likely somewhere around the front of your seat, between your legs. When you mow on a side hill, that COG tilts with the tractor. The greater the slope of the hill, the farther over the COG moves. If the COG gets to a point where it is close to being above the centerline of the lower side wheels, you will get very unstable. If it surpasses this line, you will tip the machine. Adding weight to the tires and rims moves this COG much lower and spreads it out farther. This changes the angle needed to cause instability or tippage to change quite a bit.

The weight of the fluid is carried by the ground...or as TUDOR would say, by the tire's rubber. the cast iron wheel weights are carried by the rim, or more precisely, by the air and fluid in the tire and the tire's side walls. Neither types of weight add any weight to the axle.

These are very low eights that are as low and far out to the side as you can get. They are ideal for adding stability and traction!

Thus, I am considering filling my front tires!

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I would not fill my front tires. They are not secured to the tractor in the same fashion as the rears and consequently I believe you have a much higher stress point especially when filled. I don't believe you would see much difference at all with them filled under normal mowing. Adding weights further adds undue stress to the axle and wheel mounts.

The biggest issue I see here is that you might be trying to do too much to try and make your Prestige into a Legacy. If one has to fill tires, add weights front and rear, overtax the front axle which was never designed for heavy work, you might have been better off with a Legacy to begin with. Just because it can be done, doesn't mean it should be done.

I have a friend who has a 600cc sport bike. It's very nice, handles well, runs and accelerates well and tops out at almost 160mph. He wants to spend several thousand dollars to modify it so it will run even quicker and faster...yet be left for dead by a bone stock ZX-14R big bore street bike. Why put undue stress on a hopped up inferior product to do what a bone stock product a little higher up the food chain can accomplish much easier and better? I hope you see my point.

You have a tremendous lawn tractor, but using it (or trying to use) as a SCUT will certainly lead to premature failures and a shortened overall life expectancy.


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I would not fill my front tires. They are not secured to the tractor in the same fashion as the rears and consequently I believe you have a much higher stress point especially when filled. I don't believe you would see much difference at all with them filled under normal mowing. Adding weights further adds undue stress to the axle and wheel mounts.

The biggest issue I see here is that you might be trying to do too much to try and make your Prestige into a Legacy. If one has to fill tires, add weights front and rear, overtax the front axle which was never designed for heavy work, you might have been better off with a Legacy to begin with. Just because it can be done, doesn't mean it should be done.

I have a friend who has a 600cc sport bike. It's very nice, handles well, runs and accelerates well and tops out at almost 160mph. He wants to spend several thousand dollars to modify it so it will run even quicker and faster...yet be left for dead by a bone stock ZX-14R big bore street bike. Why put undue stress on a hopped up inferior product to do what a bone stock product a little higher up the food chain can accomplish much easier and better? I hope you see my point.

You have a tremendous lawn tractor, but using it (or trying to use) as a SCUT will certainly lead to premature failures and a shortened overall life expectancy.
Very well stated...thanks!

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From 2015 to 2017 I owned a used 2013 Simplicity Conquest 27/50.
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Hey Willscary, how have you been? Hope the Prestige is still working out for you. I’m ‘lovin’ mine. Good choice. You had mentioned about your parking brake not engaging easily. I have same problem. Where did you lubricate it? I think it’s more of a lubrication issue than an adjustment. Could you take a picture and send it to
[email protected]? You were a great resource and my dealer still talks about you:-) Thanks
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Hey Willscary, how have you been? Hope the Prestige is still working out for you. Iím Ďloviní mine. Good choice. You had mentioned about your parking brake not engaging easily. I have same problem. Where did you lubricate it? I think itís more of a lubrication issue than an adjustment. Could you take a picture and send it to
[email protected]? You were a great resource and my dealer still talks about you:-) Thanks

Jetjockey, great to hear that you are loving the machine! Honestly, it was two years ago and about 140 hours since I lubed it, and I honestly can't remember. My thoughts seem to go back to using 3 in 1 oil on the cable for the release (both ends) and working it back and forth with the brake not engaged. Then I think I worked the pivot points that I could find from the pedal to the catch. It's been a while so I am unsure, but generally, when I have an issue like that, I try to lube everything I can see that pertains to the movement of the desired part.


I probably work my tractor harder than I should, but so far, so good. I use a Johnny plow to plow all winter. the last two winters have averaged about 7 feet of snowfall each, tow of the very snowiest ever. this year I had the machine running at -32F (-55F wind chill) and it fired and ran flawlessly. I use Mobil1 5W-30 for oil and 5W-50 in the K72 and had zero issues other than being cold, but the cab really helped!


I use the Johnny Bucket as much as I use the mower and I have a 1,600 pound 5X10 trailer with a 5,200 pound axle that I load with brush and haul up a hill with this machine. Only time will tell if I overload the machine, but it starts, runs, mows, hauls, aerates, plows, spreads fertilizer, moves dirt and rakes as well as it did when new. It always has Rimguard in the rear tires and cast iron weights on the rear wheels and in the winter it carries a 135 pound stainless steel weight on the trailer hitch receiver as well as the plow on the front.


There are times when I worry that it might be too much, but again, it just keeps going so far.


Congrats on the machine!

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From 2015 to 2017 I owned a used 2013 Simplicity Conquest 27/50.
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OK, so it's been exactly 2 years and 144 run hours since I brought the Prestige home. Today I used it to mow, aerate and fertilize the lawn. Yesterday I hauled the boat out of storage with it. All winter I plowed with it. In a couple of weeks I will be moving dump truck loads of mulch with it (and the Johnny Bucket Jr). I had to use it on the coldest day in over 50 years (-32 with a -56 wind chill) to remove a snow drift from the driveway. I use it in the rain and in 95 degree heat. It has been flawless.

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My 52" fabbed deck slides through the tires perfectly as long as the front wheels are turned all the way to the left as I rotate and pull it out the right side. My 50" deck fit MUCH easier. When I got the new machine and removed this bigger deck for the first time, my very first thoughts were "how in the heck do you get the 54" deck out of here?"

Seriously, the difference in wiggle room between the 50" deep stamped deck and the 52" Ferris fabbed deck is huge. I can't imagine trying to get a 54" deck to slide out between the right side wheels...
I just pull the long pin off the front hitch turn the wheels to the left and wiggle the 54 out without a problem at all.

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I just pull the long pin off the front hitch turn the wheels to the left and wiggle the 54 out without a problem at all.
If you try to take the deck off as with most other Simplicity quick detach decks, it will not happen with the 54". That was not a well thought out decision on their part. My mower jack sure makes it a much easier process!!


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