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post #16 of 31 Old 10-01-2019, 10:47 PM
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I know that thanks! It was mentioned that the V was most similar to the F so I figured the F specs on blade alignment would apply. Who knows? Bill

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Here's a few more pictures. Everything is cleaning up well except for the muffler, carbon was really baked on. I'll finish it up tomorrow. Carb flange seems straight. Nice thing about plastic is how well it cleans up. I'm not going to repaint now, just spray with Total Boat Rust Primer, have used it on many things over the years and it's never failed me.
Interesting info about timing the blade differently, I'll have to get a copy of the service manual, what I have now is an owner's manual, doesn't talk about timing blade at all.
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Here's a few more pictures. Everything is cleaning up well except for the muffler, carbon was really baked on. I'll finish it up tomorrow. Carb flange seems straight. Nice thing about plastic is how well it cleans up. I'm not going to repaint now, just spray with Total Boat Rust Primer, have used it on many things over the years and it's never failed me.
Interesting info about timing the blade differently, I'll have to get a copy of the service manual, what I have now is an owner's manual, doesn't talk about timing blade at all.
Everything looks great there, these pre 98 decks seem to be made of better steel and will last you a long time especially protected. I can add a link to the service manual, was just giving my advice on blade timing it does work well I have been doing it for years not trying to mislead you sorry if we hijacked your thread debating lol

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Everything looks great there, these pre 98 decks seem to be made of better steel and will last you a long time especially protected. I can add a link to the service manual, was just giving my advice on blade timing it does work well I have been doing it for years not trying to mislead you sorry if we hijacked your thread debating lol
Hi Jacked the thread? Not at all. the more info the better, and please do add a link to the service manual for both of them if you would, I'm looking to learn as much as possible, who knows what I may have to do to either one of these mowers before I'm done!

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Hi Jacked the thread? Not at all. the more info the better, and please do add a link to the service manual for both of them if you would, I'm looking to learn as much as possible, who knows what I may have to do to either one of these mowers before I'm done!
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Hereís the V manual

I will see if I can find the duraforce manual as well

Edit, here it is https://www.toro.com/getpub/13300

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thanks for the manual 95lawnboy, too cool and rainy to spray rust primer today, got the muffler as clean as I could, ran out of oven cleaner! will clean again next time, priority now is get it running
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Sometimes life just gets in the way of a good day in the shop! Either that or it was the rain and cool weather. That's my story and I'm sticking to it! Anyway I got the 10227 running today. Seems to run pretty good. Thanks for the tip about the blade, doesn't seem like any vibration at all. Mowed a small area and everything works great.


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Sometimes life just gets in the way of a good day in the shop! Either that or it was the rain and cool weather. That's my story and I'm sticking to it! Anyway I got the 10227 running today. Seems to run pretty good. Thanks for the tip about the blade, doesn't seem like any vibration at all. Mowed a small area and everything works great.

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Looks and sounds great to me, and I think it might run smoother/nicer than any of my Vs. Iím glad the blade timing worked out for you. Theyíre great light mowers and nice to use this time of year for leaf mulching. Looking forward to see you fix up the duraforce next...

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Looks and sounds great to me, and I think it might run smoother/nicer than any of my Vs. Iím glad the blade timing worked out for you. Theyíre great light mowers and nice to use this time of year for leaf mulching. Looking forward to see you fix up the duraforce next...
Thanks, Going to go mow some with it today, I'm happy with how it turned out. Not sure how far I'll get with the DuraForce as I don't have a heated shop but the weather is going to be nice for awhile yet so we'll see.

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Well the 10227 runs and mows great, couple of more mows and I'll put it up for the winter. The 10323 is going to take awhile. Good thing I didn't try to start it. Engine and carburetor full of water, flywheel stuck on, steel parts heavily rusted, aluminum parts highly corroded, muffler heat shield bolts welded on, etc. I got all winter, no problem! I'll update you from time to time.
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Well the 10227 runs and mows great, couple of more mows and I'll put it up for the winter. The 10323 is going to take awhile. Good thing I didn't try to start it. Engine and carburetor full of water, flywheel stuck on, steel parts heavily rusted, aluminum parts highly corroded, muffler heat shield bolts welded on, etc. I got all winter, no problem! I'll update you from time to time.
That piston looks pretty scored up. Also with the rust around the rings I'd pull it apart and make sure they arent stuck.

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Well the 10227 runs and mows great, couple of more mows and I'll put it up for the winter. The 10323 is going to take awhile. Good thing I didn't try to start it. Engine and carburetor full of water, flywheel stuck on, steel parts heavily rusted, aluminum parts highly corroded, muffler heat shield bolts welded on, etc. I got all winter, no problem! I'll update you from time to time.
Just from those pictures, I can tell youíre gonna need reeds, upper and lower crank seals, rings and probably a piston. Usually when the piston looks that bad the cylinder is scored beyond use. That said, the duraforce has a chrome plated cylinder, so if yours isnít scored deep through the plating, you can use muriatic acid on a q tip to remove any aluminum deposits. If the piston doesnít clean up with some light sand paper it will definitely need replacing. I think your best bet would be to find a good used short block. Running mowers with bad decks are easy to find on Craigslist for $25-50 and that would be cheaper than the parts to fix your engine. I have had lots of duraforces break the muffler guards from vibration so that would explain the welds on yours. Looking forward to watching your progress.

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Just from those pictures, I can tell youíre gonna need reeds, upper and lower crank seals, rings and probably a piston. Usually when the piston looks that bad the cylinder is scored beyond use. That said, the duraforce has a chrome plated cylinder, so if yours isnít scored deep through the plating, you can use muriatic acid on a q tip to remove any aluminum deposits. If the piston doesnít clean up with some light sand paper it will definitely need replacing. I think your best bet would be to find a good used short block. Running mowers with bad decks are easy to find on Craigslist for $25-50 and that would be cheaper than the parts to fix your engine. I have had lots of duraforces break the muffler guards from vibration so that would explain the welds on yours. Looking forward to watching your progress.
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That piston looks pretty scored up. Also with the rust around the rings I'd pull it apart and make sure they arent stuck.
I agree with everything you say. I'll know more when I get time to break it down. I've seen some pretty bad seizures in chrome plated bores over the years wrenching on Italian kart engines and Japanese bikes. With this one being so badly neglected and worn out it may be a parts mower for the future. Could turn the 10227 into a 10304 if the drive is good, another Dura Force could show up locally, could part it out to you guys, many possibilities. As a disciple of Gordon Jennings I've always enjoyed two strokes so this is just a continuation of my time back in the day racing bikes. Just not as fast!

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I agree with everything you say. I'll know more when I get time to break it down. I've seen some pretty bad seizures in chrome plated bores over the years wrenching on Italian kart engines and Japanese bikes. With this one being so badly neglected and worn out it may be a parts mower for the future. Could turn the 10227 into a 10304 if the drive is good, another Dura Force could show up locally, could part it out to you guys, many possibilities. As a disciple of Gordon Jennings I've always enjoyed two strokes so this is just a continuation of my time back in the day racing bikes. Just not as fast!
To do that conversion you would need to cut a hole in the deck (belt runs under the deck for the V as opposed to on top), get the lower profile drive cover, the shorter input shaft, different cable bracket, the smaller ID engine pulley, and the dirt shield that goes underneath.

Pretty cool that you are into the old Japanese bikes, Iím only 18 but have been buying and selling my whole life. Only bikes I have on the road rn are a 1970 CB175 and a 1984 CB650 but I would love an old T350 or RD350 or S2 2 stroker. Do you still ride?

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To do that conversion you would need to cut a hole in the deck (belt runs under the deck for the V as opposed to on top), get the lower profile drive cover, the shorter input shaft, different cable bracket, the smaller ID engine pulley, and the dirt shield that goes underneath.

Pretty cool that you are into the old Japanese bikes, Iím only 18 but have been buying and selling my whole life. Only bikes I have on the road rn are a 1970 CB175 and a 1984 CB650 but I would love an old T350 or RD350 or S2 2 stroker. Do you still ride?
I had to stop riding for awhile when I turned 68 because of back problems. Got that fixed and never went back to riding on the street. I haven't raced since 1997 and never really felt that comfortable riding on the street. Woods riding was fun but couldn't compare to road racing. I follow MotoGP, WSBK, MotoAmerica and WERA on the net and TV but haven't attended a race in years. As I like to say it was the most fun you could have with your clothes on!

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