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Old 08-24-2019, 05:55 AM Thread Starter
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Just purchased a 4213

I recently purchased a Honda 4213 for $650. It appears to be in great shape but Iím not a mechanic. Could anyone offer some advice as to what parts should be replaced due to the age of this tractor? I believe itís around a 1986. I would like to keep it running if possible. I bought it from the original owner who had made some minor repairs over the years. He kept good notes but I donít see anything as far as clutch base replacement, timing belt, ignition coil or starter etc. I guess I would like to know what things I should be looking at replacing due to age and the types of things that should be done as long as the engine is out or while your replacing this part itís a good idea to also do this kind of thing. Thanks, john
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Old 08-24-2019, 09:53 AM
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Nice looking little machine. My understanding is it is the same machine as the 3813 but with a 42" deck
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Old 08-28-2019, 03:28 PM
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Great find you got there Op!
As the previous response said, it's the same tractor as the 3813 difference being that you have s 42" deck. Good to know if you're ever looking for parts. Also worth noting, is that the 3810 is the same chassis wide but s different engine, whereas the 3814 and 4213 use the same engine.

You can use the deck and attachments for those on yours.

Now onto your question, what to look for/consider replacing.

As someone who owns 3, I would say consider the following, which I will rank in order of importance.

1. Do a coolant flush and replace thermostat. Even though yours looks to be in pristine condition, most of the ones that I've seen still have the original coolant and thermostat from the factory. It's low cost insurance/cheap maintenance and super easy to do.

2. Bearings:
These tractors have a ton of them. The tractors are durable but bearings are a wear item, meaning that they will wear out and considering this is a 30 year old tractor, chances are that they're either shot or on their way.
Most PTO issues that I've run into with these, haven't been the clutch material themselves but instead the bearings which over time seize/slow down to where they can cause engagement issues and or premature wear. It seems like a daunting task, that is to replace the PTO bearings but it's not that bad of a job. An hour tops..I recommend that you do this when you're doing the radiator flush as you will have to remove/empty the radiator to get to the clutch bearing.
Definitely consider replacing the deck bearings. Most people don't replace bearings until they have a catastrophic failure, i.e. no longer moving, but once you replace them on your deck you will notice a HUGE difference in the cutting speed and strength of the tractor. You can cut thick 2'+ high grass in 3rd gear no problem when the deck blades are spinning optimally.
Last bearings to check for are the drive clutch for th same reason that I mentioned with the PTO. I will note, that the drive clutch and bearing are way more involved than the deck and PTO so FYI hence why I listed last, perhaps consider doing during the winter months.

3. Not a priority, but keep an eye out of a good low priced coil for sale. It's not a matter of if, but when they will dry out to the point of crumbling apart.

4. Accessories
Okay, not a relevant one regarding the topic at hand but worth noting. If you think your tractor is a cool amazing piece of Honda engineering, well wait until you see the snow blower, snow thrower, dozer blade and such that fit your tractor. Many of them are super rare to find and are typically expensive, bit sometimes with Patience and luck you can find an amazing deal! I just picked up a 42" blower with the quick hitch and drive kit for $200 in excellent condition..and it came with another tractor


5. The basic maintenance. Air filter, spark plugs oil and filter. Word to the wise regarding the oil filter, they have a small low volume one and a bigger automotive style one that fits....go big or go home!


To be honest with you, it don't take much to keep these tractors running. It's not a John Deere or anything. You could literally never do anything to it and it will run. Such as the one I purchased last year. Owner admitted o changing the oil maybe 2 or 3 times since purchased new in 86!




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Old 08-28-2019, 06:35 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks al lot for the detailed info. Weíre you referring to a low priced starter or clutch coil?
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Old 08-28-2019, 07:57 PM
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Thanks al lot for the detailed info. Weíre you referring to a low priced starter or clutch coil?
I was referring to the actual stator coil that sits inside of the timing belt cover. Over time with the heat, they dry out to the point of crumbling. You can find them used in good shape for low price, worth buying one to keep if you see it cheap for if in case yours falls apart as they're typically expensive.
The starter itself isn't too bad. Around $80 last I checked. The job is a bit of a pita as you have to pull the engine unless if you have small hands but you could also rebuild if your starter goes.

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Old 08-29-2019, 06:55 AM Thread Starter
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Do you have a part number for that part? Iíll start looking for one now
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Old 08-29-2019, 08:29 AM
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I believe their is also the combination relay that all the safety switches go to usually is the culprit with intermittent starting


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