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post #16 of 22 Old 06-10-2019, 11:17 AM
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Re: Adding Hour meter

Mowergene:"Zip tie won't have the wire in it which could affect the reading. "

I do not understand. The zip tie I expect was to be used to fasten the meter in place. The wire that wraps onto the plug wire will almost hold its shape when curled, but not quite, and will likely un-ravel and start to slop around. I would not use a zip tie for the wire as I figure it would be harder to use than electrical tape...
I guess I don't understand the comment, basically.
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Mowergene:"Zip tie won't have the wire in it which could affect the reading. "

I do not understand. The zip tie I expect was to be used to fasten the meter in place. The wire that wraps onto the plug wire will almost hold its shape when curled, but not quite, and will likely un-ravel and start to slop around. I would not use a zip tie for the wire as I figure it would be harder to use than electrical tape...
I guess I don't understand the comment, basically.
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It was suggested to use tape or bread tie wire to connect the sensor wire to the spark plug wire.
Wrap the wire around the plug wire. Take the end of the wrapped wire back to the beginning of the same wire and TINY zip tie together.
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Re: Adding Hour meter

Having installed a number of these, I've found wrapping the sensing wire around the sparkplug wire several times, putting the end of the sensing wire near the wire going to the hour meter, then a zip tie around both the spark plug wire, the end of the sensing wire and the sensing wire going to the hour meter, works well. It holds the wire on and in place, and the zip tie can be cut off without damaging the sensing wire or the spark plug wire.
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Having installed a number of these, I've found wrapping the sensing wire around the sparkplug wire several times, putting the end of the sensing wire near the wire going to the hour meter, then a zip tie around both the spark plug wire, the end of the sensing wire and the sensing wire going to the hour meter, works well. It holds the wire on and in place, and the zip tie can be cut off without damaging the sensing wire or the spark plug wire.
That'll work. I've got some tiny zip ties that will grip and take up no space. Not that you're restricted for space here, but the larger ones are kind of bulky for this application. Tape would heat up next to the engine, gum up the wire and not hold indefinitely.

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OOooookaaaaaaaaay. Now I get it. The meter came with a couple small zip ties, and I assumed... they were to hold the sensing wire around the plug wire. Oops.
Well, now I know, and the picture/sketch above was worth 1k words. Thanks.
I believe I will try double sided cushy tape to attach the meter itself.
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Re: Adding Hour meter

I.m going with the electric analog hour meter
https://www.amazon.com/Docooler%C2%A...ateway&sr=8-20

I guess the way to go will to tap into the wires that go to the ABF solenoid but wonder if I should cut the insulation a little bit behind the wires and splice
in that way or if there are some type of wire connectors I can use to splice down a bit from the ABF solenoid plug?
I wanted to fabricate some kind of metal holder (Bracket) for the meter and fasten it to the frame of the mower. I like the idea of using
angle iron(or bracket) and make a cutout for the meter face to fit in and then fasten the bracket to the floor frame of the mower.
Picture is not my mower but looks similar.... Just reference of where I would like to put the bracket/meter


Found a utube video that shows how to use T Tap connectors:


Now I will have match the wire gauge for the connection from the T Tap to the meter. Anyone know what the ABF solenoid wire gauge is?
Wonder if it be a good idea to wire in a 1/2 Amp fuse from the T tap to the meter?

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Re: Adding Hour meter

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I.m going with the electric analog hour meter
https://www.amazon.com/Docooler%C2%A...ateway&sr=8-20

I guess the way to go will to tap into the wires that go to the ABF solenoid but wonder if I should cut the insulation a little bit behind the wires and splice
in that way or if there are some type of wire connectors I can use to splice down a bit from the ABF solenoid plug?
I wanted to fabricate some kind of metal holder (Bracket) for the meter and fasten it to the frame of the mower. I like the idea of using
angle iron(or bracket) and make a cutout for the meter face to fit in and then fasten the bracket to the floor frame of the mower.
Picture is not my mower but looks similar.... Just reference of where I would like to put the bracket/meter


Found a utube video that shows how to use T Tap connectors:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikZZBmvFEho

Now I will have match the wire gauge for the connection from the T Tap to the meter. Anyone know what the ABF solenoid wire gauge is?
Wonder if it be a good idea to wire in a 1/2 Amp fuse from the T tap to the meter?
I like that meter...use #12 stranded wire....lamp wire ...find a lamp that someone is throwing away and use that wire....connect one terminal to the chassis for ground...then go to the back of the ignition switch with a test light...hit the different lugs until you find one that keeps the test light on when the engine is running...and turns it off when the key is turned off...tie into that circuit I always have pieces of old traffic signs that I find in the street and I cut a piece for this round meter that i never installed...I used a wire wheel cup on a drill press to get the design in the metal
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