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post #1 of 22 Old 08-20-2019, 10:24 AM Thread Starter
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Battery died, right on schedule.

For my YT-3000 I bought an Interstate battery last January(see pix attached). I recall the salesman saying it had a 6-month warranty, which made me pauseóbut I bought it anyway, thinking Interstates are the best.
8 months later itís dead as a door nail. What is the best, most durable, most reliable battery I can get for my tractor? Thanks in advance. FYI I live on Cape Cod and use the tractor as a snowplow, so I need a battery thatís good in the winter.
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Re: Battery died, right on schedule.

Any battery today no matter the brand is a gamble--they don't make em like they used too..many only have a 90 day warranty,even car & truck batteries..

A friend who used to sell Interstate batteries at his shop told the guy to come take them out after he had a few go dead days after a customer bought them,and they wouldn't recharge or hold a charge..

"Better" brand names only cost more in my opinion,I have had low buck cheap tractor batteries last as long as the "good" ones..

All you can do is get the battery with the most cold cranking amps and number of plates and hope it lasts...if you have room to put in a larger battery,I would do that--I have been able to stuff a Honda Civic battery in a few of my tractors and they outlast a lawn tractor battery by far...

Vibration and a loose hold down kills many tractor batteries,so does a "drain" if something stays on when the tractor isn't being used--a bad diode in the charging system can sap one down quickly,but still let it charge normally while your running it..


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Re: Battery died, right on schedule.

In these new days, just about any battery out there is a ****shoot. All of the tales of batteries lasting a decade refer to batteries made 5 years ago or more. Makes no difference what you pay for it. Average life expectancy of batteries made today is roughly 48 months. Remember, that is average over many thousands of batteries sold. You might get one of a series that lasts for that 48 months and get another of the same series lasting 2 months.
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Believe it or not...Walmart....I've got 10 year old batteries in big trucks that sit for a year without being started, and start right up....no other brand will do that. I've tried them all. The lawn and garden batteries have a 1 yr warranty and return it no questions asked and get a new one...with another 1 yr warranty.
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I have seen Walmart batteries that only lasted a day or two. We can thank the EPA for this expensive crap shoot.
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All you can do is get the battery with the most cold cranking amps and number of plates and hope it lasts...if you have room to put in a larger battery,I would do that--I have been able to stuff a Honda Civic battery in a few of my tractors and they outlast a lawn tractor battery by far...

Vibration and a loose hold down kills many tractor batteries,so does a "drain" if something stays on when the tractor isn't being used--a bad diode in the charging system can sap one down quickly,but still let it charge normally while your running it..
My current battery is wedged in there pretty tightly, so going up in size is not really an option.
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Re: Battery died, right on schedule.

I came across a tractor that I bought that had a walmart battery in it with a tag showing that it is about 7 years old...still load tested "GOOD"....I would never believe that from walmart except I saw it with my own eyes...I usually get emails from advance auto parts and get 20% off theirs and can count on them for 2 years...beyond that you take a chance...I did buy a battery tester and check all of them every month or so just to see if they are going bad...I don't wait for them to be dead when I go to use it...I do not believe any one gives more than 6 months on a group U1 battery
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Iím checking online and canít find any warranties that run beyond 6 months. When did that happen? When I bought the tractor 8 years ago the first battery lasted about 3 years.
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Most batteries are remanufactured by only a few companies now, I find the cheapest I can and they work no different then expensive ones, keep a trickle charger on them in the winter.


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Iím checking online and canít find any warranties that run beyond 6 months. When did that happen? When I bought the tractor 8 years ago the first battery lasted about 3 years.
About 6 years ago I bought a sears battery and it died in about a year....not thinking, I just went back to sears and thought I was going to get a prorated swap out...that is when I found out about it
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Iím checking online and canít find any warranties that run beyond 6 months. When did that happen? When I bought the tractor 8 years ago the first battery lasted about 3 years.
It's been that way for a while. 30 days on some motorcycle, ATV, and Snowmobile batteries.

Put a toggle switch in the small power feed wire to shut the everything off. With that switch in the OFF position the only place you should have juice is the BAT terminal on the starter contactor and the battery + terminal. For some reason manufacturers want to leave stuff powered 24/7 with the ignition switched off. The low power circuit kill switch is now just as necessary as a fuel shutoff valve.

I pull the batteries from my summer equipment in the fall and winter equipment in the spring and put em on the bench in the cellar after I charge em up with a CTEK 7002 Pulse charger. The original battery in my ZTR mower is 4 years old now and the AGM batteries in my older ATVs and snowmobiles are nearing 8.
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There is no one brand that stands out as far as I can ascertain. I have gone with WalMart batteries as they are made by Johnson Controls, one of the "Big Two/Three" manufacturers. I have had them last a year, and some longer.
Two thoughts: Check the electrolyte level and keep them charged. If the level is low, add some distilled water. I charge once a month(if I remember), or on an 'as remembered' basis. So far, so good.
I doubt there is one maker that has a stellar product that outshines all the others. I think they are all focused on short term profit at the expense of customer satisfaction.

I will say that the two auto batteries I have gotten from BatteriesPlus(bulbs?), Duracell, are priced about the same as the auto parts store product, and have a 3 year free replacement warranty. Many times you can get a 10% or 15% coupon code for use ordering online for in-store pickup. They have been good to me so far, knock on formica.
For garden, I go with Wally, and look for the 'freshest' on the shelf by the date code.
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I'm not from US but generally the battery with the biggest CCA (cold cranking amps?) you can fit in the tractor will be best. Batteries do not like cold weather. A gel or agm (glass mat) type battery might be better (or a lithium ion battery if you have loads of $ - they are a lot smaller/lighter and withstand a lot more discharge/charge cycles).

Solar off grid use deep discharge batteries which might work better/last longer in cold weather as they are more resistant to damage due to high discharge.

Keeping tractor, or at least battery in a warm place will improve longevity (just not oven warm). If everything outdoors, make an insulating jacket for battery (around bottom as well) - just use heat resistant plastic of some sort if necessary though still needs a breather for gas escape. Make sure nothing is draining battery overnight (ie short circuits caused by worn wiring) Most circuits cut off with key in off position but not all, especially if its been modified. If something is then a cheat is to install/use a battery cut off isolator (switch) close to battery on main big power cable.

Yuasa is a good make, but maybe not available nearby.

I would go with a solar off-grid battery if it fits as probably not too hard on the wallet and should work a lot better.

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There is no one brand that stands out as far as I can ascertain. I have gone with WalMart batteries as they are made by Johnson Controls, one of the "Big Two/Three" manufacturers. I have had them last a year, and some longer.
Two thoughts: Check the electrolyte level and keep them charged. If the level is low, add some distilled water. I charge once a month(if I remember), or on an 'as remembered' basis. So far, so good.
I doubt there is one maker that has a stellar product that outshines all the others. I think they are all focused on short term profit at the expense of customer satisfaction.

I will say that the two auto batteries I have gotten from BatteriesPlus(bulbs?), Duracell, are priced about the same as the auto parts store product, and have a 3 year free replacement warranty. Many times you can get a 10% or 15% coupon code for use ordering online for in-store pickup. They have been good to me so far, knock on formica.
For garden, I go with Wally, and look for the 'freshest' on the shelf by the date code.
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It used to be Interstate, Exide, and Johnson Controls. They still make the lions' share of lead acid batteries in the US markets.
Right now Everstart at Wal Mart along with the O'Riley and Autozone house brands are made by Johnson Controls but that could change at the drop of a hat. Trying to keep track will make your head spin like the little girl in the exorcist.

Just like so many other aftermarket parts there are quality grades and they hide the actual grade from the public. Your best bet is to look at the warranty. More warranty is usually higher quality. Motorsport and outdoor equipment batteries are usually made as cheaply as possible so the profit is extortionate.

Your best bet is to take as much care as possible to make sure the battery has the longest life possible. Cutoff switches and removal to the basement where the battery is charged up for the off season.
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Go custom! Get something like this trunk to attach to the back of your tractor, then extend the battery cables inside and put an extra-large battery in. This guarantees you'll have enough cranking amps in sub-zero weather and you get extra weight on the rear tires for plowing.

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