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post #1 of 16 Old 11-07-2006, 07:59 PM Thread Starter
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We just got in a 574 diesel tractor. It had had a recent engine job, but apparently they neglected to check out the engine balancer because it failed and caused undetermined problems.


I am hoping to get chance soon to drop the oil pan and see what sort of damage we've got there. I'm hoping to be able to repair the engine so I can check out the rest of the tractor, and so we would have a good engine to sell.




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Your post caught my interest since I had one (a gas) with a 2250 loader. Sold it with the loader for $8,000.00. Hope you find out what she needs to make her tick.

Just curious since I asked you if you had a battery cover about a year ago for mine...how is the battery cover on this one?

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JDA, I guess I didn't look very close at it yet, but I think it's in good shape.

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Y'know, to the eyes of a furriner... those things look seriously odd without a cab.

I mean, what do you use to catch your coat/overall pockets on when gettin' on and off?!?

Common cause of minor injuries, major embarassment and universal hillarity over here...

Seriously though, when it comes to those IH diesels (D-239 in a 574 IIRC) I am sooooooooo glad that we got one with a Perkins!

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Re: Ih 574

You know its funny. I read a lot of the tractor Mag's from the UK and I always think the same. How strange those old tractors look with cabs on them.

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I mean, what do you use to catch your coat/overall pockets on when gettin' on and off?!?
https://www.mytractorforum.com/showthread.php?t=12068

It happens, read this thread I posted about my dad's encounter while exiting the 574 we had.

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Paul, here in Sunny Southern Scotland even the tourist brochures have been known to say that it rains every day, but not all day...

Them cabs is handy... kinda diificult to plough a straight furrow and hold onto an umbrella at the same time...

JDA, I've done that a couple of times myself. Fortunately, when it happens you're usually still trying to fight off the **** cab door long enough to get out, so it's easy enough to tramp on the clutch pedal to get things slowed down a bit. Wonder which fool made the bloody thing L-shaped in the first place???

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Loopy, I'd pick the D239 over a Perkins any day! They may be a little loud, but are tougher than nails, and no block cracking problems like a Perkins!

As for a cab, I wouldn't know what to do with one, never used a tractor with a cab.

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Loopy, I'd pick the D239 over a Perkins any day! They may be a little loud, but are tougher than nails...
Yeah, Good One!!

Think they musta been sellin' the seconds over here then! They were kinda popular over here in their day, being a "handy" size HP-wise, but disappeared rapidly due to chronic material failures in the engine department...

It's usually a toss up as to what kills them first, the piston rings chewin' through the liner from the inside, or coolant cavitation holes boring through them from the outside. Either way, it's off to the breakers yard when it happens cuz when one thing fails, the rest usually ain't far behind...

Other popular methods for a D-239 to kill itself include kronic krank wear (they can go some funny shapes when you try to get them re-ground too), bustin' the oil pump drive, the water pump impeller splitting (that one can have some really bizzare effects if you can't/don't get all the broken pieces out) cracked heads and valve breakages...

Never noticed one being noisy though...

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...and no block cracking problems like a Perkins!
Mine has a 212 (MF-165 engine), which don't usually do things like that...

Admittedly, some of the later ones (236, 244 etc.) can be a bit of a bugger for it!

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Loopy, The D239s generally go around 8000-10000 hours to a rebuild here, and the Perkins block cracking I was thinkng of was the 3.152s and 4.203s.

I've never seen an IH with the 4.212 Like you,ve got.

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Just out of interest, are those PAVT back wheels? Power Adjust Variable Track...

Never seen them on a 74 series before (not terribly common on anything else come to think of it)...

Think they built about 2,000 475's (only model with Perkins engine) at Doncaster from late 73-ish through to 78 or 79. Used to be about a dozen in the hands of various customers from Dads business, but ours is the only survivor that I've come across...

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Yup, they'r ethe power adjust rims alright, and the only set I've seen on an IH also. LOL I've mostly seen them on MFs and older ACs. They are kinda of a PITA to use, but I like to see them come in on parts tractors because they are worth about twice as much as regular rims for resale.

How many HP is the 475? Are they a Perkins powered alternate to the 574?

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63hp IIRC (the lettering faded off the decal a loooooong time ago). Think a 574 reckons to be about 68hp, so it's more of a Perkins powered 474...
Same gearing as a 574...

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I think the 574 is 62 HP and the 674 is 68 or so, but I've been wrong before.


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I know it gets cold up there but are you bailing snow now, LOL.

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