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post #1 of 34 Old 09-24-2015, 04:01 PM Thread Starter
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X595 and hydraulic MCS - it's done

A few weeks ago I came across a 400-series hydraulic MCS (material collection system) located in PA. Since the leaf battle is about to start, and I've tried numerous methods to deal with this more efficiently, I felt the MCS deserved a look. I wrote about inspecting the system in this thread. After making one trip to inspect, I decided the system was worth adapting to my x595. Worse case I could always resell it should the combination not work. So I drove back a few days later, loaded everything on to my trailer, and headed for home.

The good:
- After a minor cleaning, it was apparent that the unit was in far better shape than initial inspection revealed.
- The MCS lower brackets fit perfectly within the sides of the x595 frame, and the included upper mounting blocks bolted right on.
- Other than minor surface rust from scratches & scrapes, the frame is corrosion free and the hopper is free of cracks, etc.

The bad:
- The lower of the two engine mounting pins was broken off.
- The included Peco deck boot was not close to fitting my 54c deck.
- The engine on/off switch was junk.
- The hydraulic connections were set up for a tractor with rear remotes.
- The fuel looked 7 years old.

Once I determined the unit would physically mate to my tractor, I set about making some modifications and doing some needed service:

- Changed the oil, cleaned the plug, cleaned the air cleaner.
- Replaced all fuel lines, clips & fuel.
- Replaced the on/off switch and wiring.
- Sourced a pair of hydraulic lines & required fittings to go straight from the MCS hydraulic splitters to the SCV.
- Cleaned the MCS, oiled any pivot points, and cleaned the stainless uprights.
- Reshaped the aluminum deck boot to fit my deck and created a plate with which to mount the boot.
- Removed broken engine mount bolt and welded on a new one.
- Created a turnbuckle arrangement to keep the engine oriented correctly.
- Removed the goofy "FULL" hopper device, cut the rusted & distorted blades off, cut & shaped new blades and welded those to the shaft. Cleaned, painted and reinstalled said goofy device.
- Moved my rear weight bracket to the front and hung 6 suitcase weights.

That's it for now. The unit operates perfectly and is ready for action. On to a few pics:








































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post #2 of 34 Old 09-24-2015, 04:18 PM
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Nice work on the adaptation. I've never been around one of those units in action...they look pretty handy!

Not to derail the thread, but what toothbar do you have on your loader bucket?
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Not to derail the thread, but what toothbar do you have on your loader bucket?
The tooth bar came with the CTC loader. I assume it from CTC.



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Nice work.

I was thinking that it called for 9 front weights. Does the manual mention anything about that? Seems like it could use all hands on deck up front when that big bin is packed full and raised up in the rear.

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Nice work.

I was thinking that it called for 9 front weights. Does the manual mention anything about that? Seems like it could use all hands on deck up front when that big bin is packed full and raised up in the rear.

I'll need to actually open the manual and take a gander.



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That's awesome! Those are super rare. I would love one of those. I wonder what practical application the high dump would be used for by a homeowner.


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I wonder what practical application the high dump would be used for by a homeowner.
I can deposit grass & leaves over the fence and in the neighbor's woods.



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Thanks for the toothbar info Andreas.

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Great Pic's and tractor ......
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I can deposit grass & leaves over the fence and in the neighbor's woods.


Best forum comment I've read in a long time.


This is the first one of these I've seen outside of a couple of similar systems marketed for Europe. What years were these available, and how much (in # bushels) does that hopper hold?

I love that the collection system doesn't ride on the ground like the MC519 does. I've had to replace one of the caster assemblies on mine, and the other will probably need it after this season's leaf gathering. I also love that it can be dumped without having to get off the tractor, whether into the neighbor's yard or onto the compost heap.

I wonder if the hopper assembly could be used with the PowerFlow deck driven blower instead of the gas engine, or is the lift to the top of the hopper too great for the PowerFlow to cope with?

*EDIT* Seeing this system, and my own comment about the MC519 riding on the ground, has given me an idea. Do you think it practical to develop a frame that the "wagon" part of the MC519 would bolt or be welded to, that would fit on a 3-point hitch, negating the need for the casters? Of course, it would require front weights to counterbalance it, and would only be an option for anyone who has a 3-point hitch. I think I'll start sketching some ideas.

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Best forum comment I've read in a long time.


This is the first one of these I've seen outside of a couple of similar systems marketed for Europe. What years were these available, and how much (in # bushels) does that hopper hold?

I love that the collection system doesn't ride on the ground like the MC519 does. I've had to replace one of the caster assemblies on mine, and the other will probably need it after this season's leaf gathering. I also love that it can be dumped without having to get off the tractor, whether into the neighbor's yard or onto the compost heap.

I wonder if the hopper assembly could be used with the PowerFlow deck driven blower instead of the gas engine, or is the lift to the top of the hopper too great for the PowerFlow to cope with?

*EDIT* Seeing this system, and my own comment about the MC519 riding on the ground, has given me an idea. Do you think it practical to develop a frame that the "wagon" part of the MC519 would bolt or be welded to, that would fit on a 3-point hitch, negating the need for the casters? Of course, it would require front weights to counterbalance it, and would only be an option for anyone who has a 3-point hitch. I think I'll start sketching some ideas.

My pleasure.

The manual states 15 cu.ft. From a maneuverablity standpoint, I wouldn't want it any larger. The unit I purchased was marketed for the 400-series - not sure how many years they were sold but I think the first x595s came out in '02.

I see no reason why the Power Flow assembly couldn't fill the hopper - it's not that high.

I was prepared to cut & weld as needed to make this work with the x595. Thankfully it pretty much slipped right on. If you're up for modifying your existing setup, nothing wrong with adapting it to a 3-point or other.

Just found this on the Interwebz:





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My pleasure.

The manual states 15 cu.ft. From a maneuverablity standpoint, I wouldn't want it any larger.
That's surprising, it looks much larger. The MC519 holds 19 bushels, but it looks much smaller, especially in the photo you posted of one mounted on a 3-point hitch (of course, the tractor is larger than the X7)

Thanks for that pic, BTW. It demonstrates two things: 1- my idea is possible, and 2- my idea wasn't the first one like it.

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That's surprising, it looks much larger. The MC519 holds 19 bushels, but it looks much smaller, especially in the photo you posted of one mounted on a 3-point hitch (of course, the tractor is larger than the X7)

Thanks for that pic, BTW. It demonstrates two things: 1- my idea is possible, and 2- my idea wasn't the first one like it.

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My pleasure.

The manual states 15 cu.ft. From a maneuverablity standpoint, I wouldn't want it any larger. The unit I purchased was marketed for the 400-series - not sure how many years they were sold but I think the first x595s came out in '02.

I see no reason why the Power Flow assembly couldn't fill the hopper - it's not that high.

I was prepared to cut & weld as needed to make this work with the x595. Thankfully it pretty much slipped right on. If you're up for modifying your existing setup, nothing wrong with adapting it to a 3-point or other.

Just found this on the Interwebz:





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Member slkpk has a build thread here. https://www.mytractorforum.com/77-cut...c519-cart.html


A video here.
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Great job on the MCS, enjoy it.

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