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post #16 of 32 Old 09-11-2015, 06:16 PM
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In addition to all of the above reasons to buy a diesel, you don't have to buy crappy gas with ethanol in it.





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In addition to all of the above reasons to buy a diesel, you don't have to buy crappy gas with ethanol in it.
And to add to that, diesel stores MUCH longer than gas without adding additives. You don't have to worry about ethanol pulling water into the fuel that can damage the engine.

In reality this does make a difference since small engine fuel sometimes sits for periods of time. Storing diesel requires no extra thought or effort.

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After having a diesel I'm hooked. When you work on a diesel it costs more but you work on them less.
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You guys have given me plenty to think about. I appreciate your time and input.

Hopefully I'll be able to show you what my decision was with a bunch of pics.

I'll be making a purchase in the next few weeks before all the discounts expire!!
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I think because of the small size of these engines the gas vs diesel in these tractors really comes down to if you u think Diesel engines are cool or not. I do like the smell and sound of Diesel engines and would get one every time if I can justify the upfront cost. But I wanted all wheel drive and all wheel steer so I went with the gas x739. Biggest pro is I only have to keep gas cans since everything else I own burns gas. On paper I don't think the torque and horsepower between the two engines is that different. And since we run them full throttle when mowing, torque curve isn't as important. As mentioned your resale value will be higher with diesel but u paid more for it. That being said I would expect you to get 75% or more back from the cost of the option at time of resale. If you think diesels are cool get the diesel and you will love it. If you don't, get the gas and you will love it. Either way a win win. If you like the idea of all wheel steer with all wheel drive take the money you would have spent on the diesel and get a gas aws/awd. The best option to get is the all wheel drive so Either way you will love the tractor no matter the engine.
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Have the 345,then got the x595 diesel.The power when mowing or anything else is just amazing.As much as I would like to replace the 345 with a x590 a x495 would be great.

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I purchased a X738 three months ago (new), and had the exact same question you did. I spent numerous evenings worrying about the real world different between the 738 and the 758, and was totally in love with the 758 because the dealer had it in stock. In the end, I went with the 738 for two reasons: I have ethanol free fuel at a station near by, and I hate the smell of diesel (and so does my wife).

Did I make the right choice? No clue. I can tell you that my previous mower had a 24HP Briggs V engine, and it would burn about 3/4 gallon of gas per hour while mowing. With the 738, I can easily burn over 1 gallon an hour with the deck running (probably more like 1.25 gallons). I burn through a five gallon can each time I cut the three acres around my house, and it takes me a little over three hours (the previous mower took four hours). So, it sucks more fuel, but man it's fun to ride. With 35 hours on the 738, I've gone through about 28-30 gallons of gas.

In the end, with the average cost of ethanol free fuel ($3.99/gal here in MI), I think the diesel would have been a better purchase.....but with the 54" deck and 47" snow blower, but wife was already angry enough that it cost more than her car. Are you going to be able to do anything with the 758 that you can't with the 738? No way. Will you save some $$$ long term even though the 758 initially costs more? Probably. If you're not afraid of doing the upkeep yourself and have a decent diesel source near by, I'd tend to lean that way.

FYI: When the dealer delivered my 738, we had a long discussion about fuel. I told him I run ethanol free (90/91 octane) in everything, and he loved that. I told him I might try running premium (93 octane) plus a fuel stabilizer/ethanol treatment, and he said "don't bother...stick with the ethanol free". I may still do it just for a comparison on fuel consumption.

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One thing I do like about diesels is, the spark plugs never wear out. Well, it just has glow plugs. Don't have to worry about frying the coil(s).

Changing oil filters and oil between the two is about the same. Diesel used to be hard to start in winters. Now days, they do pretty good. If it's super cold, run glow plugs 2 times.

I noticed between tractors, gas or diesel. The diesel for mine takes longer to heat the cab blowing snow. But once it warms up, the cab stays warmer than the gas does. Virtually identical cabs.

Either tractor is a good one. I guess it would come down to what is the easiest fuel to get. My truck and everything runs diesel, so that's what I have most of in the cans.

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Buy the diesel.
Those that tell you it's a wash.....or no difference... or diesel smells bad.. or a dozen other reasons never have owned a small John Deere diesel.

If they did ....they would say the same thing I did at the top... just buy the diesel..

If smell is a problem always have plenty of thin Nitrile gloves around.. car and garage... use them and throw them away.

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....and be prepared to do your own laundry if you don't already. Still, probably worth it.

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I have narrowed my search down to a X738 or X758. My question is the way the payments work out there is a $19.16 a month(60 months) for the differance between the two, is it worth the differance for the diesel? If it is worth the extra $$ can you give some reasons why? I would be using a 54" deck and I have a steep hill to mow and looking to use a front blade for snow removal.

Any input would be appreciated and will help to make my decision.
Your asking for any input, so I guess this would be input. One thing to consider is where will your tractor stay, in an attached garage or an unattached one. If unattached and it has power to it to run a block heater a diesel would be okay, but if it's attached the diesel will take a little while longer to warm up and it might smoke up your garage or attached house up a little.

Also if you have a cab for it the gasoline version will heat up the cab quicker and probably keep it warmer, so if your only out in the cold for a short time the gasoline version might be a little better deal.

The X700 All Wheel Drives are fast in the snow so your time pushing or blowing snow will be quick.

If you want bragging rights the diesels are more power full, but keep in mind the Twin Kawasaki has more power in the gas version then the tractor can really use.

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Knew this might bring you out of the weeds. Good to know you are still out there keeping and eye on things... Any new pictures to share with the site? Always enjoy them. Did you have luck selling the Power King or car yet? If so, I'm sure you would put that money towards a big diesel truck my friend, Again, nice hearing from you!!!
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Knew this might bring you out of the weeds. Good to know you are still out there keeping and eye on things... Any new pictures to share with the site? Always enjoy them. Did you have luck selling the Power King or car yet? If so, I'm sure you would put that money towards a big diesel truck my friend, Again, nice hearing from you!!!
Thanks for noticing I'm still out here. Sold my car and bought a rust free 2001 Ford Ranger one owner 78,000 miles on it with no dings, it's like new. My son had been watching it for two years, his neighbor, they said when they sold there cottage they would sell him the truck, he didn't need it so that's how I got lucky. I got $4500.00 for my car and bought the truck for $4000.00, extended cab, big six, power everything I'm livin large

No bites on the Power King but a guy has a restored 140 h3 here locally so might do some trading. Not to high jack the thread but I guess I could mention I got the shingles August 1st, and my back and side are all scarred up, I lost 25 lbs it almost took me out. It's been six weeks as of yesterday and the rash and blisters are gone but my side is still swollen a little, enough where I had to hire a lawn guy to come in and cut the lawn and edge. He brought in a 360 Deere with a bagger, that 360 got right after it, nice job, he just left here from doing the edging.

Back to the question of the original poster. If you have had a diesel you know what you have to do to take care of it. If you have never have had one, make sure you can get good fuel, and I would also stop down at the local parts store and see if they sell a lot of additives , if they don't the fuel is probably pretty reliable.

Like I said earlier if you want the bragging rights get the diesel, then you can get up on the soap box and WUF WUF WUF it with the best of em

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Hey Animal Cracker- Maybe I should get a hard cab with a heater so I have a place to live!!

On a more serious note I appreciate all the comments and advice everyone has given. Many of you brought up some good points that I would have not thought about.

Rob - I have a heated attached and unattached garage so I should be good with the smell situation, that is one of the points I didn't think about with the diesel.
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Any excuse to play in the garage unless we're talking sub zero temperatures! TB1013, you may just be onto something.....

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