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post #1 of 19 Old 10-20-2019, 06:03 PM Thread Starter
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47" Quick-Hitch Snowblower for my x485 - couple questions

Hi Everyone,

I picked up a used 47" Quick-Hitch blower for my x485. I've got it all installed and everything seems to fit up and work fine.
My tractor had the blade with quick hitch already. I got the used blower for $1100 delivered and it is in super condition.

The used blower came off a 400 series and I received it with the upstop and blower drive shaft attached.

I had to buy the larger PTO drive shaft kit BM25304 ($400) and a couple 90 degree fittings ($10) for the hydraulic lines that operate the chute and connect into the tractor. I also had to flip those lines from one side of the blower to the other which was easy.

I'm wondering if the blower drive shaft is correct or not for my setup. I was able to connect it to the PTO shaft after installing the blower on the quick hitch. When I raise and lower it to the top and bottom stops there is play in the shaft and feels fine. Nothing seems bound up at any point. I'm just wondering if its too short? Most all the splines are exposed. But when I test it it seems to work just fine and doesn't make any bad noises.

Here are a couple pics
https://imgur.com/a/C9e0IWz

The instructions also say to insert a pin into the quick hitch to lock it from moving left and right. I don't have the pin but just put a hitch pin I had in it. You'll see that in the pics. What pin should I really be using? I think if I got a 4" x 3/4" pin from tractor supply that would work.

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Hi Everyone,

I picked up a used 47" Quick-Hitch blower for my x485. I've got it all installed and everything seems to fit up and work fine.
My tractor had the blade with quick hitch already. I got the used blower for $1100 delivered and it is in super condition.

The used blower came off a 400 series and I received it with the upstop and blower drive shaft attached.

I had to buy the larger PTO drive shaft kit BM25305 ($400) and a couple 90 degree fittings ($10) for the hydraulic lines that operate the chute and connect into the tractor. I also had to flip those lines from one side of the blower to the other which was easy.

I'm wondering if the blower drive shaft is correct or not for my setup. I was able to connect it to the PTO shaft after installing the blower on the quick hitch. When I raise and lower it to the top and bottom stops there is play in the shaft and feels fine. Nothing seems bound up at any point. I'm just wondering if its too short? Most all the splines are exposed. But when I test it it seems to work just fine and doesn't make any bad noises.

Here are a couple pics
https://imgur.com/a/C9e0IWz

The instructions also say to insert a pin into the quick hitch to lock it from moving left and right. I don't have the pin but just put a hitch pin I had in it. You'll see that in the pics. What pin should I really be using? I think if I got a 4" x 3/4" pin from tractor supply that would work.

The blower I have has a rectangle style pto shaft for both of my tractors. As far as the pin for the left and right go, I would just get a basic pin from a farm store.

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Re: 47" Quick-Hitch Snowblower for my x485 - couple questions

Hard to tell from your pic, but not sure if you have the correct shaft. That's a lot of spline showing. Looking up the kit you bought (BM25305), it says that kit is for the 4WD models. How much of the spline is actually inside the receiver? The pin you bought should work. The correct one has a hole through it so you put a locking pin in it so it doesn't pop out.

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Re: 47" Quick-Hitch Snowblower for my x485 - couple questions

Oops...the PTO kit I bought was the BM25304 which is the 2WD kit. I corrected my post. The blower drive shaft snaps onto the PTO shaft just fine. It is extended out to almost touching the allen head stop screw when the blower is pushed into the ground slightly which would be the max extension.

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Hard to tell from your pic, but not sure if you have the correct shaft. That's a lot of spline showing. Looking up the kit you bought (BM25305), it says that kit is for the 4WD models. How much of the spline is actually inside the receiver? The pin you bought should work. The correct one has a hole through it so you put a locking pin in it so it doesn't pop out.
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Re: 47" Quick-Hitch Snowblower for my x485 - couple questions

That shaft looks wrong to me. You need BM23236 implement drive & upstop kit. It should have a square slipjoint, not a splined one.

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Re: 47" Quick-Hitch Snowblower for my x485 - couple questions

Typically the shaft on the blower needs to be longer than a 4X5 series tractor to work correctly. If I understand correctly you are using the shaft that came with the blower form the 4X5 series? If you are almost hitting the set screw that keeps the shaft together you are asking for trouble.


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Re: 47" Quick-Hitch Snowblower for my x485 - couple questions

Looks like you have a M01471X model snowblower from a 332, same as my blower when I first got it.

Couple of threads re: driveshaft on a x4x5x7 from a 455


Implement drive upstop with 47" blower on X485
https://www.mytractorforum.com/12-jo...ower-x485.html

47" Snowblower Driveshaft Issue
https://www.mytractorforum.com/12-jo...aft-issue.html
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Re: 47" Quick-Hitch Snowblower for my x485 - couple questions

Yes, that is exactly what the ID tag states, M01471X. I attached the tags from the blower, hitch and tractor so you guys can see what I'm working with. Since I bought the blower second hand from an equipment dealer I really don't know what it came off of. I also included a few more pics for reference.

So...with all the info at hand am I good with the implement drive shaft I have or should I buy a different one and if so which one? When I tested it out it seemed to work fine when raised all the way up and all the way down raising the wheels an inch off the ground. But I also don't want something catastrophic to happen while I'm battling the elements soon

Thanks!
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Re: 47" Quick-Hitch Snowblower for my x485 - couple questions

I had the same issue while installing the same blower, on my 455.

You can get a drive shaft that is a bit longer (any profile will work - splined, square, etc) and adjust it to length. BUT you will need to make sure the shaft has same-size yoke ends, so you can swap out the 2 ends of the yokes from the original splined shaft onto your new one, to make the new shaft will fit onto the blower and onto the tractor. Probably looking at $100-150 for a used shaft.... will take a bit of hunting to find one with the right size yokes - but they're fairly standard. I did this - took me 3 stops around farm supply & repair shops.... paid $150 CDN... But that was actually Plan-B.

Plan-A is what I did in the end, which was to remove the drive-shaft end of the sprocket assembly off the blower, remove the small sprocket and its' shaft and bearings, and fabricated a new shaft/sprocket. Used a 1" shaft, got a hub and sprocket from Princess Auto - total cost $35... welded the new sprocket onto the new hub, and installed it onto the shaft (keyed and locked with set screws), and then trimmed the shaft to length - making it 2" longer than the original one. In my case, I just needed 2" more. Basically it was sticking out of the blower (towards the tractor) by 2" more. Then installed the original splined shaft onto the new longer input shaft on the blower. No changes on the splined shaft - just on the blower end. Done. Works perfectly.

I put the shaft that I bought (as part of Plan-B), on the shelf to be used on some future project.

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Re: 47" Quick-Hitch Snowblower for my x485 - couple questions

I decoupled the blower shaft from the PTO shaft and measured the blower shaft's exposed spline fully extended to the stop. That was 4-1/4"
Then I reconnected it to the PTO shaft and measured the exposed spline which was 3-7/8 with the blower in the fully down position.
So there is 3/8" before hitting the stop fully extended. Is there anymore spline still engaged that is farther in than the stop? Is this a reasonable amount of spline engagement?


I also found an ebay seller with this shaft for sale but I really don't know if it is exactly what I need.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/John-Deere-...8AAOSwkvtcDUqm

He lists AM132904 as the P/N in the description.

I wonder if it is totally correct for my configuration? UPDATE: I found some information from another ebay seller where in the description it says that AM132904 will not work with my blower serial number. https://www.ebay.com/itm/281570138510

So it looks like I need AM148739 which is the shaft in the updstop kit BM23236.

Anyone have a used one? I can't find one. Or back to my original question...will the one I already have be good enough?

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You need BM20871 driveshaft and upstop kit. Exactly what I bought for my M0147X blower for use on an x749. Cheaper in kit, otherwise driveshaft is $4-500 or $175 for the one on ebay.

Note his dimensions, the total length
12.5" retracted
16.5" extended

I measured my driveshaft and it is the same measurements
12.5" retracted
16.5: extended

4" basically what you have 3 7/8"

Just use what you have.
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Re: 47" Quick-Hitch Snowblower for my x485 - couple questions

So your x749 with an x series hitch would be the same dimensionally as my x485 with x series hitch? Do you know how much slip joint is showing on yours when hooked up on the tractor?

I'm just trying to understand why I wouldn't need the BM23236 kit because everything I've researched would tell me to get that one.

Thank you for the help with this!!!
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So your x749 with an x series hitch would be the same dimensionally as my x485 with x series hitch? Do you know how much slip joint is showing on yours when hooked up on the tractor? I'm just trying to understand why I wouldn't need the BM23236 kit because everything I've researched would tell me to get that one.
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Oops, now I see you have the x series hitch, and you will need the BM23236 kit. Get in touch with Mach-1 and he has the right driveshaft, but has a dent, should still work. This is his thread. Mach-1 had to use the BM20871 kit because he had the 455 quick hitch.

https://www.mytractorforum.com/12-jo...aft-issue.html

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I decoupled the blower shaft from the PTO shaft and measured the blower shaft's exposed spline fully extended to the stop. That was 4-1/4"
Then I reconnected it to the PTO shaft and measured the exposed spline which was 3-7/8 with the blower in the fully down position.
So there is 3/8" before hitting the stop fully extended. Is there anymore spline still engaged that is farther in than the stop? Is this a reasonable amount of spline engagement?

Anyone have a used one? I can't find one. Or back to my original question...will the one I already have be good enough?
Thats not a lot of shaft engagement. From a power transmission perspective it's probably sufficient but from a stability / wobble perspective, it's probably not.
How much shaft is sticking out at the shortest point (fully raised?)... if it's fully collapsed, then you dont want a longer shaft. if you have for-example 3" sticking out at maximum-collapsed position, then you could easily have 2 more inches of shaft overlap - which will make it 2-3/8" at max extension, and 1" at max collapse. That would be much better.
Does your shaft wobble when fully extended, and you yank on it with your hand?... or is it tight?
In my case, when I added 2", my shaft was fully decoupled with the blower down (fully extended)... I had to remove the set-screw stop, otherwise I would have damaged something. In you case you have 3/8" plus the distance from the set screw to the edge of the shaft which is what?... anther 1/2 to 1"?... for total engagement at max extension of 1-3/8 inches?
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Re: 47" Quick-Hitch Snowblower for my x485 - couple questions

If it was mine I would get a longer male shaft. If you find a splined one like you have from another Deere product it should be the same. The female part is fine. 3/8" would be too close to comfort for me personally. But it should work.


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