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post #1 of 32 Old 09-05-2019, 06:23 PM Thread Starter
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Tried out a 1025R today....

I may make a trade, depending on what they offer me for my X7 setup. I drove a 2019 1025R, with the 120R loader and a 60" mower. I really liked it. I was thinking of a 2-series, but I believe the 1 series is a big enough step up for me. The rear lift will lift another 250 pounds, and the loader will pick up twice what the 45 loader does, The 120R loader is a quick attach/detach and just as easy as the 45 loader, and the mower deck is a drive-over with autoconnect.

I like that I can use the loader and rear lift independently without having to try and add a 3rd spool to the X7. I was also impressed with how tight the turning radius of the 1025R is, really close to the X7's My X7 has MFWD, so I'm not losing full-time 4WD in the trade. I'd be trading a 2008 X748SE, with 54C deck, the 540 PTO, factory 3-point lift, 45 loader, PowerFlow and MC519 system. The PowerFlow head is only a year old, but the collection system is showing a bit of wear.

There is a couple of used machines I want the dealer to check for me (James River Equipment), I found a couple of slightly older 1025R's with loader, same size deck, PLUS the back hoe, for less than the new one is without the back hoe. They are both fairly low hour machines, one has only 44 hours. I don't think I'd use a back hoe a lot, but for the money, why not get it? The low hour tractor is a 2015 and is selling for $16000.

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If cheaper, you’d be nuts to pass up the backhoe.

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It will be interesting to see how they play on the trade and if it varies depending on the machine you choose. Will this machine still be the primary mower? Seems like you might be playing with the line of too big to be a mower yet not big enough to be a TLB if that is what you are looking for.

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It will be interesting to see how they play on the trade and if it varies depending on the machine you choose. Will this machine still be the primary mower? Seems like you might be playing with the line of too big to be a mower yet not big enough to be a TLB if that is what you are looking for.
I'm interested in what they offer, too. This dealership is a full line JD, they had everything from E series riding mowers to 6 series tractors, with heavy emphasis on 1,2, and 3 series. There were several X7's on the lot, but none set up for anything other than mowing. He seemed enthusiastic to get an X7 with rear PTO, lift and loader, and said he got many requests for used diesels, and has had several for the 45 loader. They're going to tell me the tractor is a high-time machine for its age (10 years old, just under 1500 hours), so there is their excuse to low-ball me on an offer, but the add-ons should be good to help make up for it, I hope.

I've been evaluating what I mow; my lawn around the house is maybe 1/2 acre, with several trees to mow around, a few low enough that a ROPS would be a hindrance. The rental lawn only has a couple of trees, no clearance issues. The rest of my mowable property, about 5 acres, is flat and clear. By flat I mean not rolling, but my pasture is on a slope that my X7 has no trouble with in 2WD. The 1025 and a 60" mower would be about perfect. I do have a ditch along my road frontage that I can do 90% of without using 4WD on the X7. I have a 318 that runs good and mows very nicely, so I can use it for any place the 1025 isn't suitable. If the 318 is on the fritz (never, so far, but hey, it's 35 years old), I have a GT 235 I can use. I mainly want more loader power than the X7 has, plus the ability to use the rear lift independently of the loader and vice-versa.

My only concern with the back hoe is removal and installation. It's frame-mounted, just how difficult is it to install (question for anyone who's done it) and remove, because I don't want to leave it on the tractor all the time. The loader and mower would get 10x the use of the back hoe, and either of them can be installed or removed in a couple of minutes without tools. While I was playing with the one at the dealer, I dropped and reinstalled the loader, and also did the same with the mower deck. They're easier than the X7.

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Re: Tried out a 1025R today....

Don't know about the one series but my 3320's 447 hoe goes on or off in just a few minutes (5 +/-) so I wouldn't think the one series would be much more difficult. Having it on a dolly really speeds up the process as you don't have to monkey around trying to to line up the tractor to the hoe.

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Don't know about the one series but my 3320's 447 hoe goes on or off in just a few minutes (5 +/-) so I wouldn't think the one series would be much more difficult. Having it on a dolly really speeds up the process as you don't have to monkey around trying to to line up the tractor to the hoe.
Nice to know, thanks. I would think the BH for the 3320 is quite larger and much heavier than the one for the 1025R, so knowing it's pretty easy makes me more comfortable with taking one on and off.

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Re: Tried out a 1025R today....

Keep the X748 with all the goodies you have for it and buy the 2xxx series.

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Keep the X748 with all the goodies you have for it and buy the 2xxx series.
There is a small possibility that might happen. One of the used machines I'm looking at is a 2009 2520, it has loader and 62" deck, 379 hours, for $14K. It's also at a JRE dealership, and they will move equipment from a distant dealer to the local one to accommodate the buyer. That one is only 60 miles away. If they don't make an offer acceptable to me, and the 1025R with the back hoe is not available, I may go with the 2520 and keep my X7; however, selling the X7 would really help with not having to shell out as much cash, and like I've said, I have smaller mowers for spots the bigger one isn't suitable for.

I really like my X7, it's been a monster workhorse as long as I've had it. I'm retired now, and want to do some light landscaping and utility earthworking (plowing gardens, trenching, moving mulch and other loader work) for hire. The X7 is just limited in some of that, especially the back hoe stuff. If I get a machine without back hoe, it will be on my shopping list pretty soon.

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?? 60" box blade
Simplicity 10" plow adapted to 3-pt hitch
3-point PTO DR wood chipper

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They're going to tell me the tractor is a high-time machine for its age (10 years old, just under 1500 hours), so there is their excuse to low-ball me on an offer,

I've been evaluating what I mow; my lawn around the house is maybe 1/2 acre, with several trees to mow around, a few low enough that a ROPS would be a hindrance.

The 1025 and a 60" mower would be about perfect.


My only concern with the back hoe is removal and installation. It's frame-mounted, just how difficult is it to install (question for anyone who's done it) and remove, because I don't want to leave it on the tractor all the time.
I just turned over 150 hours and am at one year almost to the day. It's been sitting unused more days than not. 150 hours is NOT high use.

A SCUT will mow, but it isn't a substitute for a primary mower. They're heavy and a bit clumsy in close quarters and the ride ain't all that great, at least not with loaded tires.

MY BH is easy off, easy on, but you have to be lined up pretty good before you try to mount. You can wiggle and adjust a bit once the hoses are hooked up using the outrigger and boom controls.

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Backhoe walks On & Off But You Invest In one of these https://bxpanded.com/jd260-bh-dolly I Had one for the 260 On My 1025R and I now Have one for the 260B On MY 2025R. I will say the 260B Comes off & On Better than the Standard 260 Basically with the 260B Deere changed the Frame connection around from the 260. The 260 Had Hooks that dropped Onto the Tractor frame Now the Tractor has upside down hooks and the Round cylinder connections are On the 260B Backhoe side and it just falls Into the Tractor side Hooks.

I will say this If Your Primarily going to be Mowing skip the compact or Sub Compact There Just Not as Good as a X700 series I have the Latest 2025R and I did Buy a deck with it But It Just sits On a shelf.

I would say Buy a new 1025R TLB and skip the Mowing deck

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I mow with mine all the time in open areas too steep for the low end hydro transaxles in my riders. In high range, it's faster than my riders and in low range it'll tackle my hills that overheat the riders. It mows and it mows well, but it isn't a replacement for a mower whether rider, ZTR, or walk behind when it comes to mowing around buildings or detailed landscape areas. It's heavy enough to rut soft ground and not exactly what anyone would call nimble, especially with the FEL on.


I tend to agree that if you have the resources, keep the rider and add a SCUT if you need one. It doesn't have to be green though.

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The rest of my mowable property, about 5 acres, is flat and clear. By flat I mean not rolling, but my pasture is on a slope that my X7 has no trouble with in 2WD. The 1025 and a 60" mower would be about perfect.
For that, you might consider a rear finish mower instead of a belly mower. It will cost less and be easier to attach/detach at will. I decided against one due to the number of hills and obstacle I have to mow around.

But again, it doesn't have to be green.

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I had a Massey Ferguson GC2300 with 60” belly mower that gave a very nice cut. It didn’t feel nimble due to the deck width plus bagger chute, and width of bagger frame + PTO driven power flow, making the bagger almost as wide as the deck, if not wider. Turn radius and stance felt fine.
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There is a small possibility that might happen. One of the used machines I'm looking at is a 2009 2520, it has loader and 62" deck, 379 hours, for $14K. It's also at a JRE dealership, and they will move equipment from a distant dealer to the local one to accommodate the buyer. That one is only 60 miles away. If they don't make an offer acceptable to me, and the 1025R with the back hoe is not available, I may go with the 2520 and keep my X7; however, selling the X7 would really help with not having to shell out as much cash, and like I've said, I have smaller mowers for spots the bigger one isn't suitable for.

I really like my X7, it's been a monster workhorse as long as I've had it. I'm retired now, and want to do some light landscaping and utility earthworking (plowing gardens, trenching, moving mulch and other loader work) for hire. The X7 is just limited in some of that, especially the back hoe stuff. If I get a machine without back hoe, it will be on my shopping list pretty soon.

I've always really liked the 2520. It's enough bigger the loader should work quite a bit better.

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Re: Tried out a 1025R today....

Looks like my upgrade might be on hold for a couple of weeks (financial glitch). I did call about another tractor I had seen on machinefinder a couple of weeks ago, and figured it was sold by now, but no, still available. It's an '07 2320 with less than 600 hours, also has a loader and 62" mid-mower. A 2320 was what I was originally looking for; has the same engine my X748 has, doesn't have some of the newest goo-gaws the newer 1023 and 1025's have (autoconnect, for one), but does have a drive-over deck and quick-attach loader. This one is a one-owner and has been garage kept, looks almost new. It's the best price of all the tractors I've looked at, cheap enough I could look for a back hoe a bit later and come out cheaper than the 1025R I looked at that had one.

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