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post #1 of 21 Old 07-20-2019, 09:09 AM Thread Starter
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I purchased the GT 275 about 7 years ago when I purchased my property (2.5 acres: 1 acre lawn, 1.5 acres brush). This machine has served me well and was spot on for my needs. However, my needs have changed in the last 7 years.. I now have 2.5 acres of lawn and need to move trailers around my property at times (1 4x8 flat bed, 1 6x12 with ramp, 1 empty 20' boat trailer). I would like something with 4 wheel steer for maneuverability around trees, a 3 pt hitch for the trailers, a 60" deck to cut down mow time, and a deck that is capable of handling taller grass (my current deck gives a lousy cut if the grass very tall, it leaves two "mohawk" stripes where the blades overlap as if they don't have enough overlap). The property is also a tad rough in spots, so a smooth ride would be very nice. Looking to buy used, but want something that is reliable and low maintenance (I am no as mechanically inclined as most folks here).

No specific budget, but would like to keep it under $7K (lower cost is better).

Note: I searched on Machine Finder, but if you don't have specific model numbers, the list is overwhelming, so hoping to get a short list of models and years that would meet my needs and budget.

Note2: I am open to other brands.

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1998 GT 275, 17 HP Kawasaki (air cooled), 48" mulching deck, Tuff Torq K71B
2001 JS 63 self propelled push mower
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https://appleton.craigslist.org/grd/...936409247.html

x595 Special Edition diesel 62" deck, MC519 cart with power flow

Nice looking tractor, go with cash in hand, offer a little less and see where it gets you. He has alot of bells and whistles on this tractor..........won't last long at that price

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I was just browsing my local craiglists and saw this one... It's down in Rockford, IA but it's an X724 with 350 hours on it. It's 4 wheel steer, and you can put a 3 point hitch on back, and it has a 62" mower deck.

https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/r...934142318.html

Tractordata.com is a good resource for looking at model capabilities, it'll tell you if it has 4 wheel steering, 3 pt hitch capabilities, etc.
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this would do everything you mentioned including pulling those trailers around like there were not there and blow your snow in a cab.

They also make a dozer blade for them and all kinds of other front-mounted attachments

This time of year I'm sure they want to move it off their lot I bet you could get it for 7K. you could put a ball hitch on the back of it but obviously not a three-point hitch.

I promise you you would never go back to a rider after owning that bad boy

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I think the 5 ft deck limits you to: 420, 430, 425, 445, 455, X475, X485, X495, X575, X585, X595, X7 anything. If you are in machine finder, go to the specs tab and click on the width if you want the quick way to get to this list. This should give you a reasonable number of machines to look at it if you sort for your location.

I think once you have the wider deck trimming around trees is fine with normal steer...AWS is most likely going to limit your options looking for used but they are the 445, 455, X485 and X495 if optioned with it or the X729 X739 X749. Not sure what you consider tall grass but the 62C/Edge only does a so so job in tall grass imo.

Finding a machine that is reasonably close to you, AWS, with a high capacity 5 ft deck and a 3 pt in good shape at the right price might take a while. Good luck.

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I guess you guys are in the area where machine finder tells the truth. In my area here in Atlanta they are about 20% over what you can get/pay for the same tractor. In your case I would go with the X700 series for growth and heavier demands in the future.
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If you eliminate the 4 wheel steer, you can get a 4 wheel drive x728 or a 2 wheel drive x730 for less than $7,000.

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Regardless, if it's a new machine it will have to be a 700 series tractor if he wants a 3pt hitch.

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I purchased the GT 275 about 7 years ago when I purchased my property (2.5 acres: 1 acre lawn, 1.5 acres brush). This machine has served me well and was spot on for my needs. However, my needs have changed in the last 7 years.. I now have 2.5 acres of lawn and need to move trailers around my property at times (1 4x8 flat bed, 1 6x12 with ramp, 1 empty 20' boat trailer). I would like something with 4 wheel steer for maneuverability around trees, a 3 pt hitch for the trailers, a 60" deck to cut down mow time, and a deck that is capable of handling taller grass (my current deck gives a lousy cut if the grass very tall, it leaves two "mohawk" stripes where the blades overlap as if they don't have enough overlap). The property is also a tad rough in spots, so a smooth ride would be very nice. Looking to buy used, but want something that is reliable and low maintenance (I am no as mechanically inclined as most folks here).

No specific budget, but would like to keep it under $7K (lower cost is better).

Note: I searched on Machine Finder, but if you don't have specific model numbers, the list is overwhelming, so hoping to get a short list of models and years that would meet my needs and budget.

Note2: I am open to other brands.

Suggestions?
You really don't need the 4WS, the X7 turns pretty tight without it and it adds unnecessary complexity to the steering. I'd look for an X595 or X748. 4WD diesel, you can get factory or aftermarket 3 point hitch for either one, factory 540 PTO for both, and should you want a loader, the 45 factory loader or a CPC aftermarket loader will fit. The JD 45 loader is no longer made, but can be found. You have choices of 54" or 62" standard Edge mower decks, or a 60" 7 Iron deck. The 7 Iron is heavy duty with a deeper housing and the more desirable, but harder to find and more expensive. The X595, and X748 up to 2009 model year have selectable mechanical front drive (MFWD), the '09 and later X7 has hydrostatic full-time 4WD.

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Power Flow and MC519 cart
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?? 60" box blade
Simplicity 10" plow adapted to 3-pt hitch
45 Loader
3-point PTO DR wood chipper

'02 JD GT235, 48C deck

'84 JD 318, 50" deck

'86 JD 214, 46" deck

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Awesome replies! Exactly the info that I was looking for, and the CL links look like buying great opportunities. Thanks everyone!

One question: How easy it is to have a 3 pt hitch added to a used machine?

1998 GT 275, 17 HP Kawasaki (air cooled), 48" mulching deck, Tuff Torq K71B
2001 JS 63 self propelled push mower
2012 Echo SRM-225 string trimmer
1979 Snapper 5/23 Snow Blower
2012 National Walking Sprinkler - A5-2 with optional mud wheels
1999 K9 fertilizer spreader (border collie, black lab mix)

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Like to correct one thing here, the X7xx series is a lot of things, but the two wheel steer unit does not “turn tight” it has by far the largest turning radius of any late model JD GT. If you have a lot of maneuvering to do – keep in mind the 2 wheel steer 700 series turns like a tank. Your GT275 will turn circles around a 700 series tractor. So if maneuverability is high on your list – a 2 wheel steer JD 700 series might not be a good option. Seriously given your budget and mechanical ability I’d strongly consider a JD X584- with your budget you can get a Lightly used one or two year old tractor still under warranty. Of course if the FEL is that important – the 500 series is out. Unless a Johnny bucket works for you .

Given you are not a mechanic and do basic maintenance I’d stay away from 445, 455, X485 and X495- as those units are 15 to 20 years old- so expect to do some “wrenching” on them.

You can buy a new X570 with your budget- and that does turn extremely tight for 2 wheel steer

So in conclusion- I’d go with lightly used X584 or consider “upping” my budget a few thousand to get a gently used X7xx series 4 wheel steer

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Like to correct one thing here, the X7xx series is a lot of things, but the two wheel steer unit does not “turn tight” it has by far the largest turning radius of any late model JD GT. If you have a lot of maneuvering to do – keep in mind the 2 wheel steer 700 series turns like a tank. Your GT275 will turn circles around a 700 series tractor. So if maneuverability is high on your list – a 2 wheel steer JD 700 series might not be a good option. Seriously given your budget and mechanical ability I’d strongly consider a JD X584- with your budget you can get a Lightly used one or two year old tractor still under warranty. Of course if the FEL is that important – the 500 series is out. Unless a Johnny bucket works for you .

Given you are not a mechanic and do basic maintenance I’d stay away from 445, 455, X485 and X495- as those units are 15 to 20 years old- so expect to do some “wrenching” on them.

You can buy a new X570 with your budget- and that does turn extremely tight for 2 wheel steer

So in conclusion- I’d go with lightly used X584 or consider “upping” my budget a few thousand to get a gently used X7xx series 4 wheel steer
Thanks for the corrections.

One clarification: I am NOT looking for a FEL. Mowing and towing only for me for now (maybe snow plowing in the future).

1998 GT 275, 17 HP Kawasaki (air cooled), 48" mulching deck, Tuff Torq K71B
2001 JS 63 self propelled push mower
2012 Echo SRM-225 string trimmer
1979 Snapper 5/23 Snow Blower
2012 National Walking Sprinkler - A5-2 with optional mud wheels
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Call and find out if the X595 is still available and don't look back. It will do it all if and when the times comes. You will never have buyers remorse with that selection.

If the x595 is close to you go see it and see how it rides, you will be pleased for sure. Then compare it to your GT275...Turning radius isn't really that much different if that is what you are worrying about. It wil surprise you have nimble and quick you can cut your grass at top speed with no bogging down of the engine, no matter how high the grass is. It laughs at high grass and just sips fuel unlike a gas engine.

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Like to correct one thing here, the X7xx series is a lot of things, but the two wheel steer unit does not “turn tight” it has by far the largest turning radius of any late model JD GT. If you have a lot of maneuvering to do – keep in mind the 2 wheel steer 700 series turns like a tank. Your GT275 will turn circles around a 700 series tractor.
It has a larger turn radius than small machines because it is bigger than them with a longer wheelbase, but for its size it turns pretty tight. The uncut circle radius of mine, with a 54" deck, is 27". My GT235, with a 48" deck, is only slightly smaller. It will be less than that with a 60 or 62" deck. The 4WS version will turn a bit tighter, but IMO isn't worth the extra mechanicals of the rear steer for the improvement you get. I can trim around all my large trees and rub the trunk all the way around with the edge of the deck, and get the smaller ones with a "clean up pass" the next time by it. I can do a 3-point turn to turn around completely and use not much more space than the tractor takes up just sitting. Been mowing 5+ acres with my 2WS for over ten years and it works for me, as well as maneuvering around plants in the garden. You want super-tight turning, get a ZTR.

OP mentions a smooth ride, the X7 will do that better than the size smaller X5's (new number). If he wants a hitch that lifts, the X5 is limited to a sleeve hitch and not a true 3-point. The 3-point,for the OP's question, is a straightforward install, the lift arms bolt on, but the seat pan has to be removed to set up the lift linkage. A dealer can easily do it if you're not comfortable with the installation yourself.

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