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post #1 of 40 Old 07-10-2019, 10:57 PM Thread Starter
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Is a John Deere X380 enough for my yard

Hello Everyone. I am looking for advice on purchasing my first riding lawn mower.

I have about 0.7 acres with some small hills and one larger hill that is about 100' long with slopes ranging from ~10-20 degrees (see attached photos of the larger hill). I currently use a Honda self-propelled mower and am looking to upgrade. I went to the local John Deere dealer and they recommended a X380 for my lawn based on my description without seeing any pictures. They thought that for my situation the k58 transmission on the X380 was a good compromise between the k46 on the other X300 machines and the k72 on the X570.

I live in Madison, AL so I do not really need any snow removal attachments where something like hydraulic lift would come in handy, but I would like to be able to occasionally bag my clippings and perhaps pull a cart with dirt/mulch around the yard. I am looking for a mower that will last a long time (15+ yrs) if well-maintained. Will a X380 last that long if well maintained, or would I need to step up to something like a X570?

Any and all input would be much appreciated.

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Re: Is a John Deere X380 enough for my yard

I have a similar yard and I use an X390 which is almost the same tractor as the X380. It does the hills with no trouble or hesitation and the one inch axles are sturdy enough to handle the work. The K58 is a big improvement over the old K46 and most of the issues it had are gone and it is serviceable with a filter. People on this forum have a tradition of telling people to buy bigger than they need in case they want to add a freeway to their home in the future!
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Re: Is a John Deere X380 enough for my yard

If you're going to be mowing straight up and down the hill, then you might want to upgrade to the better transmission. If you are only mowing side-to-side as shown in your photos, then the X380 is more than sufficient.

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It was my understanding that when using a riding lawn mower on a hill of 10+ degrees, mowing up and down is the way to go and when using a push mower, side-to-side is best (which is what I do).
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It was my understanding that when using a riding lawn mower on a hill of 10+ degrees, mowing up and down is the way to go and when using a push mower, side-to-side is best (which is what I do).
If you're concerned about tipping, then maybe mow on a diagonal??? If not, then personally I'd go up to an X5__ series.

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Re: Is a John Deere X380 enough for my yard

You're right about mowing up and down on a hill. You'll probably still be mowing that area over by the retaining wall with the push mower, but I think you can do the rest as it looks like you have a level area at the top to turn around on.

Something to consider with the x570 is it has a locking differential. Do you need it? Maybe not, but it'd be nice to have. Otherwise yeah the x380 is a good choice.
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People on this forum have a tradition of telling people to buy bigger than they need in case they want to add a freeway to their home in the future!
Well said! x10
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Re: Is a John Deere X380 enough for my yard

X380 will handle that yard no problem, itís a very sturdy LT, probably going to have be careful around the retaining wall where slope is steepest. Properly maintained The X380 will give you 20-30 years in that yard

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I agree with the folks recommending the x380 for your yard. For piece of mind, I would hit the transaxle case with an IR thermometer immediately after mowing the hills on a hot day while still within the JD Promise period. If the case measures above 180 F ish, I'd reconsider.

I'm sure there are other opinions on the max temp but TT suggests 195 F as a max temp.
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You'll get varying opinions. I'd get an X570 minimum w/HDAPS and diff lock for that hill. Amortize the extra cost over the life of the machine and it's not that much more. Better to upsize than to find out you under bought later. Diff-lock is an indispensable thing to have. After having a machine with it, I would not go without.

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I'd probably recommend an x5 series tractor over the x380. x380 may get the job done, but I think you will have a much better chance making a 5 series last 15+ years. Especially if you start towing a loaded cart over the hills to any degree.

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I knew it! Get ready to build that freeway to your back door!
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I knew it! Get ready to build that freeway to your back door!
Lol. I read a thread on another forum where the OP said he had asked this question over here and got the "Tim the tool man Taylor" response of buying a cannon to swat a gnat with.

I agree that the JD dealer gave good advice on the X380. I ran a K61 on my 3 acres of very rough hills mowing my fields and it didn't overheat until ~2.5 acres were mowed. <1 acre will be fine with a K58.

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Re: Is a John Deere X380 enough for my yard

the transmission is fine... but lack of diff-lock will make it a fun ride.

Living in AL, you probably get the occasional rain?....

There is no better amusement-park-ride than going down a 20deg hill on wet grass, with the rear wheels spinning in opposite directions (diff. action), while you are applying 1 million pounds of force on the brake pedal, yet still accelerating... LOL!

Now try the same going up-hill, and lose traction.... even more fun!!!

You want diff lock.
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the transmission is fine... but lack of diff-lock will make it a fun ride.

Living in AL, you probably get the occasional rain?....

There is no better amusement-park-ride than going down a 20deg hill on wet grass, with the rear wheels spinning in opposite directions (diff. action), while you are applying 1 million pounds of force on the brake pedal, yet still accelerating... LOL!

Now try the same going up-hill, and lose traction.... even more fun!!!

You want diff lock.
I'll politely disagree here with the stipulation that if you have that much traction need then buy some ATV tires. I have no diff lock on my Cub XT3 and have no problems with my ATV tires mounted. They also do not tear up the grass as they do not spin.

Oh, I also have a 3240 with diff lock. The XT3 w/o diff lock does as well as the 3240 with diff lock in slippery situations. ATV tires are better than diff lock and much cheaper.
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