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post #16 of 73 Old 07-14-2019, 01:42 PM Thread Starter
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Yep, nothing fancy going on there. All I can say is when your hydraulics aren't working properly, check the valve out to see if it is open or closed first! I have had it shut or open and I forgot about it and thought my hydraulics were acting up.
Makes great sense. I'll look into one of these. Does it work with snow blower lifting or only really on the blade since it demands more?
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It shuts off the rear lift circuit which is on the same circuit that operates the angle on the plow. Without the valve the angle has a delay until the rear lift cylinder cycles to the end of its travel. If you have a straight driveway it might not matter. I like to change the angle of my plow while moving and I find it invaluable. I don’t remember exactly but I think the valve has an unusual combo of threads to install without adapters in a tight spot. I did a little research and couldn’t find a cheap alternative. The guys at auxhydraulics.com have done a nice job figuring it out and I think they are a good source.


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It shuts off the rear lift circuit which is on the same circuit that operates the angle on the plow. Without the valve the angle has a delay until the rear lift cylinder cycles to the end of its travel. If you have a straight driveway it might not matter. I like to change the angle of my plow while moving and I find it invaluable. I don’t remember exactly but I think the valve has an unusual combo of threads to install without adapters in a tight spot. I did a little research and couldn’t find a cheap alternative. The guys at auxhydraulics.com have done a nice job figuring it out and I think they are a good source.
I've experienced this delay while lifting the 3pt back blade. Seems to delay a second or two before raising or lowering. I'll look them up. Maybe a source for other needed items...
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I did a little research and couldn’t find a cheap alternative. The guys at auxhydraulics.com have done a nice job figuring it out and I think they are a good source.
Did you pick up the "positive" lock out or the "original"? Something about keeping fluid in the cylinder makes it positive 90$ more expensive.
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Re: JD 4 Way 54" Blade

By the way, does anyone know the weight of these 54 blades? The local unit is gone, so I may have to travel. Wondering how many people it would take to get the unit into the back of my Toyota Previa minivan (no seats behind driver).
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Re: JD 4 Way 54" Blade

I can move (carry) it around by myself. It's heavy AND awkward. Easier with 2 people - especially loading in a vehicle without scratching anything. I can be done with one person though

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I can move (carry) it around by myself. It's heavy AND awkward. Easier with 2 people - especially loading in a vehicle without scratching anything. I can be done with one person though
thats good to hear.. I may be on my own but the lift gate is not too high.
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This 54 blade idea has me thinking about what I can and cannot use simultaneously (building toward argument over kitchen table for two tractors...). Am I right to think that I cannot have the mower deck mounted while using the front blade for dirt or gravel pushing as the hydraulics will put the deck down when I drop the blade? I have this problem with the back blade mounted on the 3 pt. Makes me not want the mower to share the same machine!
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Frank, A 318 is an H2 system...meaning 2 separate hydraulic system, kinda. Your inner lever controls your front right (as siting on the tractor) outlets and your outer lever controls the front left outlets and the deck plus the 3-pt. A lockout valve on the cylinder for raising & lowering deck & 3-pt (located on the back left side of the tractor looking at it from the rear) will prevent movement of the deck & 3-pt when the outer lever is moved, like if you've got a blade on the front and want to angle it.

As far as the deck & the back blade lowering at the same time, they're moved by the same cylinder. You need to remove the deck when using the back blade or the blade when using the deck.

As far as kitchen table or 2 tractors, don't let wifey read this post and just say it can't be done and you just gotta have 2 tractors! Bob
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Frank, A 318 is an H2 system...meaning 2 separate hydraulic system, kinda. Your inner lever controls your front right (as siting on the tractor) outlets and your outer lever controls the front left outlets and the deck plus the 3-pt. A lockout valve on the cylinder for raising & lowering deck & 3-pt (located on the back left side of the tractor looking at it from the rear) will prevent movement of the deck & 3-pt when the outer lever is moved, like if you've got a blade on the front and want to angle it.

As far as the deck & the back blade lowering at the same time, they're moved by the same cylinder. You need to remove the deck when using the back blade or the blade when using the deck.

As far as kitchen table or 2 tractors, don't let wifey read this post and just say it can't be done and you just gotta have 2 tractors! Bob
Got it. I just put the back blade back on to do a little gravel grading and I left the mower on and could see the trouble it was causing the deck if nothing else. Lock out valve seems a necessity, but maybe two machines: one for blades/blowers and one for mowing and bagging
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Got it. I just put the back blade back on to do a little gravel grading and I left the mower on and could see the trouble it was causing the deck if nothing else. Lock out valve seems a necessity, but maybe two machines: one for blades/blowers and one for mowing and bagging
It doesn't stop there! A real good argument can be made that you don't want to be changing between the snow blower and blade in the middle of a blizzard, so each attachment needs it's own tractor. Further, it is always good to have redundancy in winter.

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Re: JD 4 Way 54" Blade

Also things don't come off or swap so easily in the cold of Winter unless you have a heated garage or shop with enough room for vehicles and the tractor and the attachments.

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I can see no end to the reasons to have more than one GT...………! You'd think this was a tractor forum or something!!

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On the 318 you can mount the front blade with the deck on. So at least if you want to do some quick dirt work it’s possible. I have used the blade as ballast when lifting with the 3 point.

The 4x5 tractors interfere with the front deck support and the quick hitch. Yet another reason for more than one tractor.


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